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2/19/2020

Posted on 02/19/2020 5:53:45 PM PST by Vermont Lt

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To: LilFarmer

Let’s do a weekend thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3818597/posts?page=1


781 posted on 02/22/2020 7:05:15 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: nerdgirl

BTDT. Can’t convince mine who grew up during the Depression, either. The majority are clueless how many germy hands have touched their food.

I’m already not buying fresh produce that can’t be washed well, peeled and cooked. The food I stocked up on was cheaper than it will be a month from now.


782 posted on 02/22/2020 7:05:41 AM PST by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: PIF

You know, the more I think about that, I am not sure those are hot enough to burn people. And they must have tons of biological waste.

I don’t know enough about portable furnaces to make a definitive statement.


783 posted on 02/22/2020 7:07:14 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: LilFarmer

Once anything gets a foothold in the schools, it spreads like wildfire. Not good.


784 posted on 02/22/2020 7:09:02 AM PST by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: LilFarmer

Even though the CDC says it does not believe in asymptomatic transmission, Japan considers it important enough to divide the cases up:

Outbreaks of patients associated with the new coronavirus (92-113 cases)

Today (February 22), Kumamoto City, Kumamoto Prefecture, Wakayama Prefecture, Chiba Prefecture, Hokkaido, Ishikawa Prefecture, Tokyo, Nagoya City, Tochigi Prefecture and Sagamihara City reported on the latest infectious diseases related to the new coronavirus.

We have reported the following positive cases (22 patients, 2 asymptomatic pathogen carriers, and 3 confirmed positive cases ( investigation into the presence or absence of symptoms )) as follows.

With this announcement, there are 132 domestically infected people (113 patients, 16 asymptomatic pathogen carriers, 3 confirmed positive).

We will carry out proactive epidemiological investigations on this matter, including the identification of close contacts.
https://www.mhlw.go.jp/index.html


785 posted on 02/22/2020 7:14:28 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: janetjanet998
“If we do well, we can avert any serious crisis, but if we squander the opportunity then we will have a serious problem on our hands,” WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in Geneva.

Then close down all entry points. Get enough working test kits that can be handled locally. Start moving healthcare businesses here.

786 posted on 02/22/2020 7:30:23 AM PST by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: LilFarmer

Interesting- I expect they brought it with them but who knows at this point...

Israel will be on top of this, but it will be nearly impossible to backtrack where these folks were for that week.

What a nightmare. And our officials don’t seem to get it- they’re consistently about 10 days behind.


787 posted on 02/22/2020 7:31:46 AM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: Paul R.

Lots of people in the US don’t wash their hands after pooping.


788 posted on 02/22/2020 7:33:56 AM PST by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: Vermont Lt

looked it up furnace temp needed 1400-1800F
many industrial ones go well over 2100F in many styles

electroheat chamber does up tp 1800C - just one company


789 posted on 02/22/2020 7:42:12 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: janetjanet998

...are the test kits made by different companies?

Yes. The “test” is likely equivalent to a cake recipe. Each site would have its own sources for the flour, eggs, etc, and its own ovens and timers and pans, and their own bakers of varying competency.

On top of that, in order to know that the cake is “good”, you have to be able to make a cake that is always “good” (aka, a positive control) and a cake that should never be good without the one crucial ingredient (aka, a negative control). If either of these controls produce unexpected results, the test is invalid.

On top of that, you have to know exactly how to get that crucial ingredient, in this case a patient sample that you know would contain virus. Perhaps sampling is variable across sites as well, with some samples having little virus in them, even though the patient is infected.

Normally a test like this would take 6 months to a year to develop and the put through the process for clearance by FDA. And that’s if everything I’ve listed above goes well.

For a single lab to set up an assay with a “recipe” like this would take an intensive (as in, round the clock) work for 2 weeks to 2 months.

Not trivial. Lucky to have any testing this fast.


790 posted on 02/22/2020 7:43:50 AM PST by microgeek42
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To: Black Agnes

They have translators at Lackland. Why the heck would American citizens need translators? I’ve suspected they’ve been slipping in “others” from day one.


791 posted on 02/22/2020 7:46:58 AM PST by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: janetjanet998

Fire anyone who insisted 14 days was long enough.


792 posted on 02/22/2020 7:53:01 AM PST by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: LilFarmer

I haven’t read the list yet but I was thinking this morning a lot of the research should hinge on the whos and whys of people who seemingly get a mild case, no symptoms and others who go critical.


793 posted on 02/22/2020 7:53:57 AM PST by riri
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To: LilFarmer

IOW, they’ve infected their entire hospitals.


794 posted on 02/22/2020 7:54:07 AM PST by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: PIF

That’ll do the trick.

Most crematoriums are 1400 to 1800 F.


795 posted on 02/22/2020 7:55:58 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: PIF

Looks like it is detected in urine too.


796 posted on 02/22/2020 7:56:00 AM PST by riri
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To: Black Agnes

You can’t run, you can’t hide, you get a Helicopter Ride!


797 posted on 02/22/2020 7:58:24 AM PST by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian.)
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To: janetjanet998

Washington Post headline 40 minutes ago - New Developments Suggest Coronavirus Incubation Could Be Longer Than 14 Days

No link because I don’t have a subscription.


798 posted on 02/22/2020 8:00:39 AM PST by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: RightGeek
Instapundit update - morning 2/22 - https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/359113/

CORONAVIRUS UPDATE: South Korea confirms huge rise in cases.

South Korea coronavirus infections surge past 430.

Judge temporarily halts transfer of coronavirus patients to quarantine facility in California city.

‘We’re in a Petri Dish’: How a Coronavirus Ravaged a Cruise Ship. “In all, it took Japanese officials more than 72 hours to impose a lockdown after they were first notified about the case connected to the ship. The delay by the Japanese government, along with slapdash and ineffective containment measures during the two-week isolation period, would help turn the Diamond Princess into a floating epidemiological disaster.”

China reports fall in new coronavirus cases but concerns grow over rising global spread.

Coronavirus: more deaths confirmed as authorities around the world struggle to contain outbreak – latest updates.

Samsung Electronics confirms coronavirus case at phone factory complex in South Korea.

Coronavirus incubation could be as long as 27 days, Chinese provincial government says.

Coronavirus update: U.S. health officials prepare for spread at home.

Towns in Italy Under Lockdown as Coronavirus Cases Surge in Southern Europe and Middle East.

Iran Reports Fifth Coronavirus Death, Most Outside Far East.

Health experts warn life-saving coronavirus vaccine still years away.

Houston genetic engineering company claims it created coronavirus vaccine.

One key indicator will tell us when the coronavirus outbreak is winding down — but we’re not seeing it yet.

The Virus Is Interrupting Supply Chains From Watches to Lobsters.

Strategists: Supply chains are going to have massive disruptions if outbreak continues to build.

UPDATE: Trent Telenko: A Biological Chernobyl? I hope so. Chernobyl’s death toll was comparatively tiny.

799 posted on 02/22/2020 8:00:40 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Vermont Lt

Just for those interested, a quick search of incinerators brings up some interesting things.

Here is an example.

https://www.azom.com/equipment-details.aspx?EquipID=4557

There was another one built around a pressurized 55 gallon drum. Turns a drum full of waster to 3 pounds of ash. It costs $4k. Every prepper needs one of those.


800 posted on 02/22/2020 8:01:52 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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