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Posted on 02/16/2020 2:39:22 PM PST by Vermont Lt

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Steve Lookner just stated the Hubei (not including Wuhan) is dropping steady. However the Wuhan cases are still climbing. Maybe the worst of the outbreak will be contain to Wuhan. Maybe the initial infections was from the banquet.

I think 14,000 people attended that banquet. I think the huge banquet could have cause the high number of infections in Wuhan. It was enough people infected to create a beach head in Wuhan for the virus take root.

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41 posted on 02/16/2020 3:57:08 PM PST by DEPcom
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To: unread
"I got COPD really bad and I've been seriously worried"

I understand. I am worried too for my wife has a very rare Cancer (ACC of the trachea), this would kill her.
42 posted on 02/16/2020 3:59:02 PM PST by DEPcom
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To: ifinnegan

The mainstream news has the number of people in China on lockdown or quarantine at 750 million - almost half their population.


43 posted on 02/16/2020 3:59:27 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: DEPcom

marker


44 posted on 02/16/2020 4:01:49 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: 21twelve

That has to be the largest quarantine in the history of man.

But it’s just the flu. Lol.


45 posted on 02/16/2020 4:05:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: zeestephen
- the infection rate and the death rate appear to be much lower in medically advanced Western countries.

I think there is some reason to be optimistic, though we probably have to credit pretty aggressive steps taken to slow the spread, including screening, higher level precautions by those interacting with potentially infected, quarantines, and general awareness of the threat. Add in better medical care, and we are at great advantage over those at "ground zero".

If it does spread widely, those "aggressive" steps will seem insufficient and the finger pointing will never end, while if it doesn't spread, people will call it an overreaction.

46 posted on 02/16/2020 4:10:02 PM PST by ETCM
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To: Vermont Lt
NYT Reports Japanese Man Diagnosed With Virus Visited Resort, Mingled With Hawaiians During Recent Visit
47 posted on 02/16/2020 4:10:25 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: ETCM

“I think there is some reason to be optimistic”

Looks like has very badly run corrupt government. They are a lot like the democrats.


48 posted on 02/16/2020 4:13:07 PM PST by DEPcom
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To: Vermont Lt

Start Date...

According to The Lancet medical journal:

01 December 2019 was the first day someone presented with symptoms.

A second person presented on 08 December.

Seven more presented before 18 December.

About half of the first presenters were linked to an open air wholesale food market.


49 posted on 02/16/2020 4:15:50 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Vermont Lt

I was reading that the last time there was a city quarantine was the Middle Ages. I’m guessing the population of the world was less than 750 million.


50 posted on 02/16/2020 4:16:10 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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"I am worried too for my wife has a very rare Cancer (ACC of the trachea), this would kill her."

I am sorry to hear that.. All the best to you and yours...
Scary times.. Kind'a makes you want to put lambs blood on your doorpost....

51 posted on 02/16/2020 4:17:30 PM PST by unread (A REPUBLIC..! if you can keep it....)
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To: unread

amen


52 posted on 02/16/2020 4:18:20 PM PST by DEPcom
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To: Vermont Lt

What I keep looking for in the west is the “recovery rate”. So far it’s 3 out of 15 in the US. It’s been almost 3 weeks from our first case so what’s the status on the other 12, I wonder?

Singapore which many are calling the bell weather to the US (about 2 weeks ahead) have had 75 cases, 5 critical, 19 recovered.


53 posted on 02/16/2020 4:19:10 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: ifinnegan; Vermont Lt; ETCM

“Coronavirus is ‘very contagious’ but ‘we’ll get past this epidemic,’ top pharma CEO says”

Published Fri, Feb 14 2020

“The new strain of coronavirus that has created a deadly epidemic in China is “a lot more contagious” than the flu, a top pharma CEO told CNBC.

“’What we have all learned is that the virus leads to a lower mortality than the flu virus, but it’s a lot more contagious, the virus is very contagious,’ he said. ‘I will not say it’s totally controlled yet, but I’m hoping that over the next few months that we will see it get under control.’”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/14/coronavirus-very-contagious-but-well-get-past-epidemic-astrazeneca.html


54 posted on 02/16/2020 4:21:02 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: zeestephen

Curious...does it say when the first one died?


55 posted on 02/16/2020 4:24:06 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt
Thanks for the new thread 🙂
56 posted on 02/16/2020 4:24:24 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: BenLurkin

The CDC figures for influenza in 2018 are significantly lower than Coronavirus—based on published numbers—which everyone thinks are crap low.

I guess when it’s over we’ll see.


57 posted on 02/16/2020 4:27:41 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: DEPcom; unread
"I got COPD really bad and I've been seriously worried"

I understand. I am worried too for my wife has a very rare Cancer (ACC of the trachea), this would kill her.

Lung pre-existing conditions are a major problem for people who get COVID-19.

I have Idiopathic Pulminary Fibrosis and would not expect to survive it as I approach 85 .
For that matter I wouldn't expect to survive the regular flu.

But life goes on, and lets get out there and keep on going. -Tom

58 posted on 02/16/2020 4:32:13 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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Saw that a couple days ago. He seems to be the only one making such a claim, and is far from other estimates. Unfortunately, once someone makes such a statement, whether it’s overly optimistic or overly pessimistic, it will be repeated everywhere.

I think one of the problems with trying to find mortality in this case is that people are receiving care at extreme ends of the spectrum. Those in Wuhan are receiving care in an overwhelmed system that likely cannot save them if they are critical. Most patients in countries with only a small number of cases are getting care and attention far, far beyond what a typical patient can expect to receive.


59 posted on 02/16/2020 4:44:22 PM PST by ETCM
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To: dynachrome

Sure does.
Think: it’s only after 2 months of the outbreak that China was able to even apply 1918 technology against the virus!

I don’t trust any numbers from China and don’t think we’ll ever know numbers from the first month of the outbreak.


60 posted on 02/16/2020 4:48:30 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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