B(ay) A(rea) R(apid) T(ransit) has lost nearly 10 million passengers on nights and weekends. Can it lure them back? [ed]

SF Chronicle ^ | February 12, 2020 | Rachel Swan

[C19fan]

When homeless and drug addicts are using the system as shelter as places to shot up, I am not surprised people will avoid using the system unless forced to.

[Steely Tom]

Haven’t there been numerous incidents of human waste being left on seats and in the middle of the aisle?

[C19fan]

Different article same day:

BART passenger beaten with chain in unprovoked attack aboard train in Oakland https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/BART-passenger-beaten-with-chain-in-unprovoked-15051791.php

[Quality_Not_Quantity]

All I will say is, “Can you blame them? “

[Oldeconomybuyer]

BART used to be terrific. My kids commute from the East Bay to the city and say it’s now a s^hole. Literally.

[C19fan]

Waste, needles, etc.

[CatOwner]

Personal protection on just about any form of public transportation is non-existent.

[uranium penguin]

Maybe they need trains?
not
port-a- potties on rails?

[Erik Latranyi]

I am sure that they will conduct a “study” for $500,000 to determine the reason and propose solutions.

That “study” will be awarded to someone closely connected to a political leader.

[Kozak]

Also rampaging groups of Yutes. But nobody can speak of that.

[G Larry]

An armed society is a polite society.

If thugs suspected even 5% of riders were armed, we wouldn't have such problems.

Alas, no Californians with the clout to obtain a CCW would condecend to riding BART.

[SteveH]

bart is not safe for passengers
bart should allow concealed carry

also san francisco bay low density housing does not seem to be a good fit for rapid transit (rather, supports buses and electrified commuter rail)

[BBQToadRibs]

I used to ride Seattle’s downtown bus system circa 2000-2008. Peak morning work commute times were fine. Afternoon started to get sketchy. Past 8pm no sane person would want to ride. It was horrible then, I can imagine now.

[HamiltonJay]

With people literally being attacked or stabbed while waiting on platforms... What do you think is going to happen?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Violent-crime-on-BART-doubles-in-four-years-14039170.php

[uranium penguin]

” Alas, no Californians with the clout to obtain a CCW would condecend to riding BART.”

One of the FIRST rules of any lawful CCW. Is to NOT KNOWINGLY put yourself into a situation where you would NEED to use it.

Or, put even more simply.. You don’t strap on your ccw and then go LOOKING for trouble.

[Bob434]

[[That “study” will be awarded to someone closely connected to a political leader.]]

Awarded to hunter biden no doubt

[Buckeye McFrog]

BART platforms are likely covered in poop.

[sheehan]

BART very dangerous and scummy... definitely a no-go at night...

[econjack]

I visited there a few months ago after not being there for about a decade. I’ll never go back. People sleeping in doorways, human excrement everywhere, needles in the gutters. Hope the people of SF like being a sanctuary city, because I think tourists are going to start visiting somewhere else. I know I am.

[Zathras]

If its anything like the MAX in Portland, all the drug dealers ride MAX at night.