Dogs and cats thrown from apartments in China over virus spread fears

news.com.au ^ | February 1, 2020 | news.com.au

[rlmorel]

They forgot door handles! (That is probably simply a given, though!)

[GOPJ]

It's interesting that the recovery trend changed immediately after the many public comments about deaths numbering greater than recoveries.

LOL - good catch. Not saying Chinese Commies would change their statistics to make their lies more believable or anything, right... /s

[rlmorel]

Hand washing with soap and water is the “gold standard” simply because it also removes particulate matter, where sanitizer doesn’t. In a hospital environment where you use gloves a lot, the particulate matter isn’t as much of an issue, and speed and availability become big factors.

I work in a hospital, and I am a fan of having the sanitizer dispensers outside each patient’s door.

As for the white uniforms...well, I met my wife many years ago as she wore one of those, so I tend to think nostalgically of them in a good way...:)

[familyop]

Thank you for the discussion and insights. Conditions in our hospitals are better than conditions in other areas of our society, which society has been in decline in several ways. If socialist, libertine gatekeeper instructors in other departments (English, social work, psych., women’s studies, etc.) were prevented from having input into medical schools, hospitals would be even better. Many decent students would then try medical work.

[familyop]

Gloves are good. Family and I have kept a supply of those for RV waste disposal for nearly 20 years. Army NBC training taught me to use them properly. If an epidemic with severe symptoms comes near, we’ll wear those for shopping.

Everyone should stock up with two months’ worth of groceries and other necessities now.

And if an epidemic with deadly symptoms come near, anyone working directly with customers in heavily trafficked retail establishments should have a plan on when to duck out and stay home.

Oh, look. The recovery number has suddenly surpassed the death number. ;)

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[rlmorel]

And right back at you, familyop...who knew I would be having a hand washing discussion online...:)

And what you said is true. I don’t think they should have NO input, just that it should be balanced, which often, it isn’t!

[familyop]

I wonder where most of the masks are manufactured. China, perhaps?

[21twelve]

I did the calculations on another thread. The percentage of deaths vs. total cases is way too close for the latest days (1/28 to 2/2) to be natural. Most of them were 2.16% to 2.17%, with one something like 2.12%.

With any natural set of data there will be more randomness. It would be interesting to see how the “official” data compares to various models.

You don’t shut numerous cities for 200 dead. (The number of dead when they started doing the quarantines.)

[GOPJ]

I did the calculations on another thread. The percentage of deaths vs. total cases is way too close for the latest days (1/28 to 2/2) to be natural. Most of them were 2.16% to 2.17%, with one something like 2.12%. With any natural set of data there will be more randomness. It would be interesting to see how the “official” data compares to various models.

You're right - the numbers don't 'add up'...