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The Future of Recycling Is Sanitation Workers Rejecting Your Bin. In Atlanta and other cities, collectors refuse to pick up trash if residents have sorted it wrong.
Bloomberg | January 29, 2020 | Leslie Kaufman

Posted on 01/29/2020 6:42:04 AM PST by karpov

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To: karpov

FYI, about 3 Mondays ago I returned home about 1500 to find that I had received a “NASTY-GRAM” note from “Carlos V________”, who is one of the San Antonio Recycling Inspectors.
(San Antonio’s recycling cans are picked up on Monday AM in our neighborhood.)

“Carlos” said in a note that the city had NOT emptied my recycling container because it “contains cloth”.
(As I had disposed of NO cloth in that container, I was “somewhat confused”.)

Examining the contents of the container (using gloves, Thank Heaven), I found the following items piled on top of my sorted recycled items: A pair of worn-out “running” shoes, a very DIRTY pair of jeans, a soiled “button-up” plaid shirt, a pair of DIRTY “once white” socks & a VERY DIRTY pair of men’s underwear.
(One wonders if the “likely unbathed & smelly” fellow walked away NAKED???)

Yours, TMN78247


21 posted on 01/29/2020 7:22:46 AM PST by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: Little Pig
An expose would likely reveal that the “sorted” recyclables all get recombined at the transfer station anyway before being shipped to a processing center for handling.

That's true. I've been to the local transfer station on several occasions and have witnessed this happening.

22 posted on 01/29/2020 7:23:53 AM PST by Salvey
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Exactly! The guys in my neighborhood leave trash behind on the ground all the time.

If for some reason, if it falls from the bin while they are putting it in the truck, then that's where it stays...On the ground.

I mean-What’s the skill level for emptying a bin?

I have seen some of these guys and they all look like they ought to be OVREJOYED at even HAVING a job!! And they should be doing their best to keep it.... NOT!

23 posted on 01/29/2020 7:27:12 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: karpov

Thankfully, that’s not on our block... yet. The only recycling place in the county shut down 15 years ago. The coke can place shut down 10 years ago.

We’re lucky to get the garbage truck out here once a week. They used to come whenever they liked every couple weeks but we had the privilege of paying for once a week at $60/month.


24 posted on 01/29/2020 7:29:37 AM PST by bgill
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Bingo! If they want me to recycle, reduce my rates; otherwise, shove it!


25 posted on 01/29/2020 7:33:17 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: BBQToadRibs

Use to be there was NO trash. My 95 yo neighbor said they used everything. Then plastic was made and trash was made. So people dumped on side of road. Dumped old stoves, etc several miles from the home. There were no dump sites! Finally, trash pick up and dump sites were made in these rural areas


26 posted on 01/29/2020 7:39:20 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: TMN78247

So how much money is wasted hiring this asshat Carlos, with pension, etc., and all the others like him? Liberal lunacy!


27 posted on 01/29/2020 7:40:28 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: SMARTY

Our old hauler is being replaced with a new hauler who exclusively uses bin containers. SUCKS bigtime. I always used 55 gal bags for these past guys. Grab bag, toss in. Move on. All done. Now I need to pull this damn 94 gal POS down and back each week. Can’t wait when summer arrives and all the food rots in the bottom of the bin and stinks the place up!


28 posted on 01/29/2020 7:47:57 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: karpov

A few years ago in MA, they fined somebody for not recycling newspapers and putting them in the trash. The people were using some newspapers to train their dog. Don’t know how it got resolved.


29 posted on 01/29/2020 7:51:53 AM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: SgtHooper
Our Dir. of Sanitation sent us a message. No waste container larger than 30 gal-or the guys wont touch it.

I promptly sent him a letter. ‘Fine. How's bout this? I'll make you a deal. When your guys STOP leaving trash on the sidewalk, I'll get a smaller bin!’

30 posted on 01/29/2020 7:52:44 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: karpov

I dutifully put recycle materials in my recycle bin. However, I have little confidence that even a fraction of what I sort out is actually recycled. Aluminum and steel cans and cardboard may be recycled, but glass and especially plastics I doubt ever gets recycled and probably ends up the environment. I would like to see an accounting from local recyclers about how much of of what we put in our recycle bin actually gets recycled. I think we would be shocked at how little gets recycled.


31 posted on 01/29/2020 8:00:13 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: karpov

Do you want to see garbage just dumped in the street?
This is how you get garbage just dumped in the street...


32 posted on 01/29/2020 8:18:36 AM PST by glasseye ("24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not." ~ H. L. Mencken)
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To: karpov

I was stopped at a traffic light yesterday. Guy in front of me tossed a Kleenex out the window. I cringed. I hate litterbugs almost as much as I hate a thief.

If the local government starts this kind of recycle nonsense...even I will start dumping trash out of my car window.


33 posted on 01/29/2020 8:27:38 AM PST by moovova
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To: glasseye
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34 posted on 01/29/2020 8:28:20 AM PST by moovova
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To: paterfamilias

I was involved in my former towns transfer station. I live in NH where we do not have $.05 or $.10 deposit on beverage containers.

The idea of separating different items is because you can save money at times on the disposal costs.

For example, you actually can GET PAID for a compacted dumpster of aluminum cans. Aluminum has a value. It goes up and down just like copper, steel, gold and silver.

Steel/tin cans also have a value. You will get paid for scrap metal.

ALL other trash COSTS money to dispose of. The difference is IF you separate it MAY cost less to dispose of it depending how close you are to some company that will buy it.

Cardboard is by far the largest volume in all trash today(thank you Amazon). We had TWO dumpsters just for cardboard.
We had one dumpster for everything else.
Companies buy cardboard and brown paper bags. They recycle them into more cardboard and brown paper bags. It just depends on how far you have to truck it.

Companies also buy glass. It does not need to be separated by color in most areas. However, some companies will pay you more IF you separate it. It depends how close you are to the glass smelter.

Some companies will take mixed clean paper. It typically can not be waxed or glossy paper. No Christmas wrapping paper allowed. Again, it depends on how far away the paper company is from your location whether it makes sense to truck it.

Some companies will buy certain types of plastic. Mostly #1 & #2. It can be melted down and reused. The other number plastics should be out lawed. They have no value or buyers.
Again, you are not going to make money selling the plastic.
It is sometimes less money to dispose of it than general mixed trash.

The whole problem with the trash stream is that here is TOO
much plastic packaging. Almost everything in the grocery store is packaged in plastic now. Milk used to come in a glass bottle, then a waxed paper carton, now it is almost always in a plastic jug.

What I do not know is we should probably BURNING the plastic to boil steam, turn a turbine and create electricity.


35 posted on 01/29/2020 8:29:52 AM PST by woodbutcher1963 (HATE)
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To: karpov; Chode

Well the dipsticks running the program in Our Town have just decided that Glass will no longer be collected for recycling...


36 posted on 01/29/2020 8:29:53 AM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: karpov

Legally, once it’s in the trash, you have abandoned it and no longer have an expectation of privacy in it. Morally, there are huge privacy implications from the state going through your garbage and seeing everything from prescriptions to bills to how much alcohol you drink in a week. Everyone should at least have a shredder.


37 posted on 01/29/2020 8:37:54 AM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: alternatives?

The town of Wilton, NH still has an incinerator. It is grandfathered in because it has been there so long. They were one of the first towns in NH to recycle. They separate everything. They even have a guy got through all the aluminum cans that have the MA deposit on them. They bag them up and run them down south to turn them in.

NH is the only state in the north east that does not have a bottle deposit. This is because the Anheuser Busch plant in Merrimack did not want one. It would have cost them too much money.


38 posted on 01/29/2020 8:38:04 AM PST by woodbutcher1963 (HATE)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Except they won’t take it


39 posted on 01/29/2020 9:08:50 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: QBFimi

And your neighbors can make life harder by throwing in their own trash in the wrong pile deliberately.


40 posted on 01/29/2020 9:14:36 AM PST by tbw2
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