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Putin's Media Struggles to Deal With HBO's Chernobyl
Moscow Times ^ | June 3, 2019 | Ilya Shepelin

Posted on 06/04/2019 3:46:09 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: virgil
In point of fact, watching the final episode tonight, I was struck with how similar our own government has become to the former Soviet Union. It's becoming increasingly intolerant and autocratic.

It's bringing in unwashed and unwanted animals from all over the world by the millions. We object, but they ignore us.

Sorry Mr. Franklin, but we were not able to hold onto the Republic.

21 posted on 06/04/2019 7:58:09 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: volunbeer
what happens when an elite control a nation

Sounds remarkably like the United States in the 21st century, doesn't it?

22 posted on 06/04/2019 7:59:13 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

I saw the last episode tonight too. It took an extraordinary act of bravery, the guy risked his life just to tell the truth. This is what we’ll get if the stupids vote for socialism.


23 posted on 06/04/2019 8:41:04 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: virgil
How is it not going to become law? Socialism, that is? Our kids are being brainwashed in schools, entertainment, social media, main line denominations and catholicism, etc.

In 20 years when they become the majority, after the American male has been thoroughly castrated, who will hold back the storm? Old men, like me?

Actually, I'm a baby boomer. We're already the bane of civilization. We're the ones who made this mess in the first place.

I've a gloomy perspective, but I just can't see any way out of this mess.

24 posted on 06/04/2019 8:50:32 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“the HBO series was wrong to suggest that the Soviet authorities were afraid to admit their mistakes and that this reluctance led to terrible consequences”

Like not telling anyone it happened until monitoring equipment down wind went off the charts?


25 posted on 06/04/2019 8:57:12 PM PDT by Clay Moore (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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They successfully denied it until the radiation left their own borders.... then it was out of their control.

The embarrassment of the state was much more important than the lives of their citizens. The positions in bureaucracy were more important than those who lost their lives. The ineptitude was baked into the system. That is why the Soviet Union failed. The truth was so apparent the lie was exposed.


26 posted on 06/04/2019 9:02:34 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
I haven't had the time to watch the final episode but, IMHO, this miniseries is worthy of every award available. It's stellar, haunting and I highly recommend it. Episode Three was gut wrenching and I thought it couldn't get worse. That was, until I watched Episode Four. 😰 Kudos to HBO. Top notch acting, cinematography and a haunting music score.
27 posted on 06/05/2019 12:41:06 AM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
"If Anglo-Saxons film something about Russians,” he said, “it definitely will not correspond to the truth.”

HBO's Chenobyl definitely corresponds to the peculiar character of Russian bureaucracy expressed in Lt. Kije, or anything Pushkin or Gogol wrote. So, I take it as accurate.

I enjoyed the series immensely. It's rare for HBO to produce such a well written, well produced, and well acted gem. After the first episode, I was inspired to read all I could on the internet about Chernobyl, then Three Mile Island and Fukushima. Like another poster here, I am halfway through Midnight at Chernobyl and recommend it highly.

But all that was still not enough. I went on Amazon and found a $70 Geiger counter with five star ratings. With that in hand, I explored the neighborhood, only to find that the most radioactive spot anywhere around was my china cabinet.

28 posted on 06/05/2019 8:49:30 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
A gut-wrenching series, unflinching in its portrayal of the political horrors of the Soviet Union.

There were a lot of brave Russians, Belorussians, and Ukrainians involved, but they were ordinary soldiers, firefighters and local people. The leftist political leadership was universally reprehensible or insane.

29 posted on 06/05/2019 8:56:27 AM PDT by dead (Our next president is going to be sooooo boring.)
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To: BenLurkin

Other than that what was your feeling about the series over all?


30 posted on 06/07/2019 2:00:21 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: PUGACHEV

Unless you were born before the seventies, you are carrying around traces of the Chinese open air nuclear testing.

It got so bad in the US, Kodak stopped manufacturing some print/film emulsions because the ambient radiation was spoiling it.


31 posted on 06/07/2019 2:16:52 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The first and last episodes were the best written, and the most interesting. With some tweaking, they (and probably necessarily a third middle episode) could have been the entire presentation, since the “measured” pacing of the show would allow for pertinent material to be moved from other episodes into either one or the other.

Pacing is ponderous, music is pompous, casting was brilliant, and the acting is very good.


32 posted on 06/07/2019 2:51:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: virgil; BenLurkin; LouAvul

I was wondering why the show creator’s name sounded familiar...and realized that he (Craig Mazin) was Senator Ted Cruz’s (R-TX) freshman year roommate at Princeton. Mazin had chimed in some (not so nice) commentary about living with Ted during the early stages of the 2016 presidential election. Do you guys remember that? I wasn’t a fan at the time of Sen. Cruz either but I do think it’s a shame that the maker of a show like this has to be so liberal on every other issue in real life. But alas...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ted-cruz-at-princeton-creepy-sometimes-well-liked-and-exactly-the-same


33 posted on 06/07/2019 3:35:37 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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