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The universe may be a billion years younger than we thought. Scientists are scrambling...
NBC ^ | May 18, 2019, | Corey S. Powell

Posted on 05/19/2019 7:11:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

So what’s a billion years among friends?

Let’s not get drunk and fight over it.

5.56mm


41 posted on 05/19/2019 8:18:21 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: BenLurkin

Well, at least they got it right this time. /s


42 posted on 05/19/2019 8:20:50 AM PDT by robel
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To: BenLurkin

in other words, they have been wrong all the other times, but now they got it.


43 posted on 05/19/2019 8:28:32 AM PDT by robel
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To: BenLurkin

We know what we know, but we must admit there is infinitely more we do not know or understand, and all that we do not know, once any of it is known, could change what we think we understand now.

All our science keeps doing is peeling back another layer of the infinite onion of informatio about the universe.


44 posted on 05/19/2019 8:36:54 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: BenLurkin

new universal law:
The more something is observed, the less it likes to be observed; the less something likes to be observed, the more it changes.

Its not a matter of privacy, but of survival. Survival is the ultimate goal; hiding is the best strategy.


45 posted on 05/19/2019 8:40:01 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Cowboy Bob

And what is the universe expanding into?


46 posted on 05/19/2019 8:43:34 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Navy Patriot
"Well, what’s the consensus and which side are the deniers so we can get on with the hangings?

Well said. That about sums it up.

47 posted on 05/19/2019 8:43:52 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon ( THE)
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To: thoughtomator

So do you prefer: Whitehead’s theory, Brans–Dicke theory, teleparallelism, f(R) gravity and Einstein–Cartan theory?
If you do, why?


48 posted on 05/19/2019 8:43:58 AM PDT by Reily
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Moonman62

The picture generated of a black hole was a computer generated compilation from programed, observed and statistically derived data. It was not a direct picture as a photographer may take. It is not “proof” of the existence of black holes any more than “photos” of UFOs are proof that aliens in mechanical devices somehow transversed the incomprehensible distances of many light years.


49 posted on 05/19/2019 8:59:01 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: BenLurkin

Since scientists can’t seem to decide on what it was, maybe they should concentrate on trying to figure out what it will be. That might be more productive and actually earn the grants.

rwood


50 posted on 05/19/2019 8:59:16 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: allendale

“It was not a direct picture as a photographer may take. It is not “proof” of the existence of black holes any more than “photos” of UFOs are proof that aliens in mechanical devices somehow transversed the incomprehensible distances of many light years.”

OK, but...

1. It was something
2. I hear you saying you don’t know what it was
3. So it might have been a black hole
4. Others believed it to be a black hole.

And so it goes here on FR.


51 posted on 05/19/2019 9:03:20 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yep and many thanks to Bill Robinson for all the fun.


52 posted on 05/19/2019 9:05:55 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: dayglored

It’s funny when they add billions or take billions out everybody scratches their head. But if you say “I believe was done in several 1000 years 10- 20 or whatever” they go apoplectic.
that’s impossible, they say.
In the end, through some cosmology that we do not yet understand, it will turn out that God’s inspired account was always EXACTLY right.
People who miscalculate in the magnitude order of billions... are akin to the jeering residents of Jericho encircled by israeli’s on day 6... just before the walls caved in.
They are not laughing anymore.


53 posted on 05/19/2019 9:07:32 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (Imho)
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To: Reily

f(R) gravity? There is a cosmological theory named after this website? :)


54 posted on 05/19/2019 9:12:11 AM PDT by xp38
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To: allendale

The images you see in your mind are reconstructed in your brain from electric pulses sent by your eyes.

Direct pictures taken by photographers are also reconstructed from electric signals sent by sensors to a microcontroller.


55 posted on 05/19/2019 9:12:17 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: BenLurkin
. "I wouldn't find it surprising if dark matter turned out to be more complicated than we think, too."

That's pretty funny right there!

56 posted on 05/19/2019 9:17:49 AM PDT by misanthrope (Deranged, sinister deplorable)
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To: dayglored
When The Walls Came Down From the 70s...
57 posted on 05/19/2019 9:20:12 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (Imho)
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To: BenLurkin

They’d better get a move on it...Won’t be long and all that stuff will be outta sight and they won’t be able to develop any more theories...

If it’s all expanding, why is nothing getting closer to earth???


58 posted on 05/19/2019 9:30:11 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: xp38

I guess so!
Maybe the web site is named after the theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F(R)_gravity
From the references I see 1970 (probably earlier!) so its pre-Internet. So in this chicken egg case the proposed theory came first not the web site.

There are a lot of them, all trying to do a better job then Einstein. (Einstein took some shots at trying to replace his theories.) Done to resolve “perceived problems” with the original. And the “problem list” changes as we measure more understand more etc., that’s called doing science! So far Einstein’s special & general relativity explains the most and hasn’t failed the attempts at testing it. (Which are done not infrequently!)

Theories come & go, rarely is a theory completely refuted. Usually its subsumed by a larger more complete theory that covers a wider section of the knowledge domain. (Which is dynamic too!).This larger theory will in turn be subsumed by a still larger one, ad infinitum. Closed bodies of “knowledge” are dogma not science.


59 posted on 05/19/2019 9:34:48 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

Ok....at least we have some gravitas here. LOL


60 posted on 05/19/2019 9:40:39 AM PDT by xp38
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