Posted on 04/10/2019 6:05:12 AM PDT by vannrox
“Hitler abandoned the idea of invading the UK in 1940.”
The bad is that Hitler was crazy and caused worldwide grief.
The good is that Hitler was crazy and started a war on 2 fronts that Germany couldn’t win.
If Hitler had secured resources from Stalin, without war, and had concentrated on England, it would be a very different world today. Winston Churchill saved western society... so the American left could later destroy it.
The Nazi military was geared towards limited wars against small nearby countries (short-range planes, no significant surface navy, no colonial bases); they had no chance of conquering much of anything outside of Europe. Whenever any distance arose, they had serious problems (Britain, USSR, North Africa) - and never any real chance of winning once Britain wasn’t fighting alone after the fall of France. That was their window, and they failed. Until Japan entered the war in late 1941, the British empire itself faced little threat from the Axis.
The 2 front war wasn’t as crazy as it sounds today; Hitler was part of the German army that forced Russia to surrender in early 1917. Only American intervention saved the Allies in WWI; the German troops freed up in the east would have demolished the allied armies in the west (and nearly did in 1918 even after we entered the war).
It was a stupid move, but not crazy; in his mind, half the war was won (when France surrendered), so he probably thought it was 1917 in reverse - he could dedicate everything to the east instead. Japan’s ceasefire with the USSR, which held until mid-1945, was the only reason the USSR didn’t collapse; masses of Soviet troops could be moved from the Far East to defend Moscow, then go over to the offensive.
Ok the Krauts did have the best uniforms. I’ll give them that one.
No long range bombers to reach Detroit. Maybe we should have followed Pat Buchanan’s idea and not get involved.
Hell, the Crazy Corporal couldn’t even get across the English Channel.
Hitler DID leave his right flank open to communism - when he invaded Poland together with the Soviets from the east. Stalin would have happily sat by for as long as possible without fighting Germany; each consented to the others’ invasion of neighboring free states without interfering. Hitler took much of western Europe while Stalin took the Baltic states, and parts of Poland and Finland.
Stalin was a de facto partner in Hitler’s evil up until he attacked them in June 1941 - and after that, Stalin wouldn’t fight Japan while those animals went on a tear (killing many Americans and Brits in the process).
Buchanan would have let the Jews get exterminated. Won’t be the only genocide attempted.
21 MILES:
That’s how wide the English Channel is.
That stopped Adolf Hitler.
A Frenchman swam from Cape Cod to Northwest France, somehow, probably in a wetsuit in a cage dragged by a boat, maybe:
He swam 3,700 miles.
There is no way in hell that even 10 Adolf Hitlers could have surmounted that.
America was perfectly safe.
America’s participation in the European theater of WW2 was strictly legal.
FDR *wanted* to fight on the side of the collectivists who were his heroes and who drove him and most of the people in his Administration, some of whom were Soviet spies.
The negro population of Germantown, PA, would probably hover near zero.
I agree; if Nazism and Bolshevism want to fight to the death, let them. We should’ve adopted the Roman attitude towards the Germanic tribes when it became clear Rome couldn’t defeat them: Any time the Germanic tribes fought among themselves, Rome wanted to support the weaker side to prolong the fighting and maximize casualties.
Britain was in an even worse position afterwards; having no Pearl Harbor, they’d gone to war to free Poland - and after years of fighting, complete with a fatal weakening of the larger empire, Poland was no more free in 1945 than they were in 1940.
In hind sight and very much debatable, this situation may have been better for Western Civilization in toto because as it stands now Europe is lost and is being overrun by heathens from Africa and the ME. If Hitler had won none of this would be happening.
TV Comedy would never have happened
EXTREMELY relevant article for what you said..!
https://www.takimag.com/article/stop-with-the-golems-already/
Most honest, revealing thing I’ve read on that topic in YEARS.
“It was a stupid move, but not crazy;”
Stupid, crazy, sometimes they look the same. :)
You seem well versed on the subject. My knowledge is a little bit limited, I just go by the many documentaries stating that Hitler’s generals were not happy about the decision to attack Russia.
And based on my simplistic understanding of tactics, it seems dividing forces when a real threat exists to the west is a bad idea. England still was a threat. France was conquered but not settled, and the U.S. loomed. I understand Germany was resource starved and that is part of the motivation for invading Russia. However, if I were in Hitler’s shoes, (God forbid), I would have made deals with Russia to get what I need, and I’d have finished off England. Without England to stage an invasion, the U.S. would have been isolated. Then, an attack on Russia would have made more sense.
I have a great appreciation for Winston Churchill. What an incredible leader.
“Very spiffy”
Ohrrr eschltttz!!!!
TV Comedy did happen but is it happening NOW..?
Can you go onto American campuses and say the things that passed for humor just 5 years ago..?
If you watch the NEW incarnations of Blazing Saddles and Airplane! —do those movies contain the funny parts..?
Elections happen, yes, but do they MATTER..?
Are we free..?
The proper American side in WW2 might have been NO side, short of the Pacific theater.
Thank you Hugo Boss for those spiffy uniforms.
America would be consuming much more laxitives to combat the tight-assedness and Hogan’s Heroes would have been different.
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