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On this date in 1865

Posted on 04/09/2019 7:40:56 AM PDT by Bull Snipe

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To: Reily

as it is in most wars.


41 posted on 04/09/2019 9:56:19 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Lee'sGhost
Both generals were great in different ways. Don’t care to get in the middle of an insult exchange.

I agree completely. Both had their strengths and weaknesses. Both did whatever they thought they had to do to win. The fact that one man eventually surrendered to the other does not diminish the qualities of both.

Just want to say there are a lot of reasons Lee and the South lost, including the north’s ‘endless supple of conscripted immigrants.

As you say there were a lot of reasons why the South lost. Manpower was one reason, even if you exaggerate as to the source.

Keeping in mind that many people believe the war was fought in the name of freedom (it wasn’t), it’s ironic that in order to do so, the freedom of Southerners had to be denied.

It's also ironic that many Confederate supporters claim their side was fighting for freedom...while at the same time fighting to continue denying it to a third of their population.

42 posted on 04/09/2019 9:59:28 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: mastertex
...too damn bad it was not the South who won.

Maybe they should have tried harder.

43 posted on 04/09/2019 10:02:14 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Bull Snipe

Most enlisted on either side did not own slaves. Most officers had slave holdings. Yes, union officers had slaves too.


44 posted on 04/09/2019 10:03:01 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rockrr

Lee’s sword was commissioned in Paris and smuggled to him through a Union blockade.

https://www.americancivilwarforum.com/general-robert-e.-lees-ceremonial-sword-540.html


45 posted on 04/09/2019 11:46:04 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et Dieu t'aidera)
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To: central_va

How do General! A damnable lie. Grant had an aversion to booze. He couldn’t tolerate the stuff.


46 posted on 04/09/2019 11:51:16 AM PDT by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: DoodleDawg

LOL!


47 posted on 04/09/2019 11:51:47 AM PDT by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: Bull Snipe

“Let them up easy.’’ Lincoln’s words to Grant as Grant left for the meeting.


48 posted on 04/09/2019 11:52:43 AM PDT by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: central_va

The principle that some men are born to be masters and other are born to be slaves? I really hope that never reassert itself in the western world, and may it become extinct throughout the whole world.


49 posted on 04/09/2019 11:53:36 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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Here are two of the principles he spoke of:

"The withdrawal of a State from a league has no revolutionary or insurrectionary characteristic. The government of the State remains unchanged as to all internal affairs. It is only its external or confederate relations that are altered. To term this action of a Sovereign a 'rebellion' is a gross abuse of language."

"Secession belongs to a different class of remedies. It is to be justified upon the basis that the States are Sovereign. There was a time when none denied it. I hope the time may come again, when a better comprehension of the theory of our Government, and the inalienable rights of the people of the States, will prevent any one from denying that each State is a Sovereign, and thus may reclaim the grants which it has made to any agent whomsoever."

-- Jefferson Davis, President CSA.

50 posted on 04/09/2019 12:01:47 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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