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Minnesota couple relive terror after being winched off leaking Norwegian cruise liner [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | March 25, 2019 | Ariel Zilber and Joel Adams

Posted on 03/25/2019 5:46:00 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: GOPJ

Loss of propulsion and steerage in heavy seas is bad

I don’t think there is a drogue large enough to keep a cruise ship steady into the seas and she could go a beam which is not good in very large seas


61 posted on 03/25/2019 9:58:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (Progressives are simply unhappy people attacking thesand e world rather than fixing these twmselves)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Jones Act applies to vessels traveling from a U.S. port directly to another to U.S. port. This is why cruise ships that visit U.S. ports make subsequent stops in Canada, Mexico or Caribbean islands, thus avoiding Jones Act requirements and expenses. The Jones act is why intrastate commercial transportation is mostly by road and rail in the U.S.


62 posted on 03/25/2019 9:59:30 AM PDT by Cheesehead in Texas
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To: Cheesehead in Texas

The Jones Act also applies to any US flagged vessel. That is why all cruise ships fly countries of convenience flags. If you fly a US flag, you have to abide by US law.

The Jones Act also affects over the road trucks. A Canadian trucking company can pick up in BC and deliver to Boise, Idaho. However, they can not pick up a load in Boise and deliver it to Spokane or anywhere else in the US. They can only take a load back to Canada. Same with Mexican trucking companies.


63 posted on 03/25/2019 10:12:17 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Capt. Tom

I’ve seen the bridges of a few ships and Yes, they do have sophisticated equipment onboard and onshore facilities they rely on to make assessments of weather conditions. In the end, the Cap’n makes the call.

I guess most folks have never sailed in rough seas crashing over the railings. The Pacific is OK, the Atlantic has always been a bit edgier when it comes to sea conditions and sudden changes.

The North Sea is a rough ride and not to be messed with when it is good and worked up.

Thank goodness for stabilizers and seasickness shots. Bon Appetit.


64 posted on 03/25/2019 10:17:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: Gamecock; SaveFerris; PROCON; Yaelle

No, I think it was the “Jim Morrison” song by Crystal Shippe and the Gales.

Or maybe it was the “Ella Fitzgerald” sung by the Crystal Glasses.


65 posted on 03/25/2019 10:39:39 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: C19fan

odney Horgen and Judy Lemieux say “BEST cruise ever!!!”


66 posted on 03/25/2019 11:05:50 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (My sister said the only thing that did not was the clock. GE has spare parts)
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To: VietVet876
What did surprise me was all the missile hazards and unsecured heavy objects and furniture rolling around.

When I first started Cruising about 50 years ago the cruiseships were much smaller but knew enough to drain the pools and close the shops and make sure nothing would get loose.

I saw film clip of a modern-day cruise ship in rough weather with a full swimming pool on the upper deck, dump out most of the water and have it come down through the Atrium on the ship.. What negligence.

We did plenty of February cruises from NY to the Caribbean and back in those smaller cruiseships.
Cape Hatteras could be an adventure in February, both coming and going. - Tom

67 posted on 03/25/2019 11:09:28 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: wardaddy

Do cruise ships even have drogues? A smaller one might help keep a ship stable in some circumstances... but hauling it around might use fuel too? And as far as “go a beam” I’m not sure what that means. Could you explain? Thanks.


68 posted on 03/25/2019 12:52:42 PM PDT by GOPJ (Did the Southern Poverty Law Center assist with organizing (and funding) Charlottesville?)
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To: Cheesehead in Texas

Fifty six? That’s a lot more than I thought. I assume our coast guard would have some - and the cruise industry must have back up plans for these kind of possibilities... (I’m impressed with your answer - and what it took to figure that one out)...


69 posted on 03/25/2019 12:56:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (Did the Southern Poverty Law Center assist with organizing (and funding) Charlottesville?)
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To: GOPJ

Beam sea

Wave direction against the side of vessel

Rather than bow or stern

A large typhoon style beam wave can be very destructive even to a large ship

Cruise ships have a high center of gravity

Remember that container ship went down two years ago near Bahamas

Similar issue

No power can’t steer

In heavy seas

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3344837/posts


70 posted on 03/25/2019 1:16:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (Progressives are simply unhappy people attacking thesand e world rather than fixing these twmselves)
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To: Larry Lucido

Mangled jokes suck. LOL


71 posted on 03/25/2019 1:34:12 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: wardaddy

Thanks for explaining that... that high center of gravity is kinda creepy... like the thing could tip easily... I like sail boats and speed boats (use to love water skiing as a kid) but I don’t like cruise ships..


72 posted on 03/25/2019 9:52:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (Did the Southern Poverty Law Center assist with organizing (and funding) Charlottesville?)
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To: GOPJ; Travis McGee

To me cruise ships are floating resorts

But some folks adore it

That’s ok

I used to sail and trawl the Western Hemisphere

And go fast boat and I owned freighters

I know it sound crazy

We would be out in the open ocean 5-600 miles from shore in an upset ink blue Caribbean Sea at dusk expecting more heavy weather at night as it dragged on

You’d see a big Carnival or Royal Caribbean motor by and from maybe only a hundred yards away watch folks on deck or in their stateroom windows getting ready to go eat or see a show or gamble

We’d be soaking wet and chilled in 70 degree windy weather ....tossed about too much to really eat much

Yes...I’d be jelly for a minute or two

But then when back at shore all that would be the reason I don’t cruise

Now those expensive med cruises on those huge sail boat cruise ship going to offbeat places

Maybe

I’ve never done a group tour in my life


73 posted on 03/25/2019 10:09:18 PM PDT by wardaddy (Progressives are simply unhappy people attacking thesand e world rather than fixing these twmselves)
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74 posted on 03/25/2019 10:13:16 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: wardaddy

I can relate to watching the big cruise ships going by, lit up like Disney World.

But once they lose power, they are floating death traps for thousands trapped in a steel hive.


75 posted on 03/26/2019 4:19:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
'floating death traps for thousands trapped in a steel hive'

Good thing someone else had a vacation cruise option in mind for those that prefer small intimate craft and hate crowded buffet lines.

76 posted on 03/26/2019 6:59:20 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: wardaddy

Cool life... freepers tend to be made of sterner stuff...thanks for sharing.


77 posted on 03/26/2019 7:26:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (Did the Southern Poverty Law Center assist with organizing (and funding) Charlottesville?)
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