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Potential Uranium Exposure at Grand Canyon Museum Bldg
lake powell life ^ | 18 Feb 2018 | Dennis Wagner

Posted on 02/18/2019 1:41:02 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Dead Horse Point State Park is beautiful.

Been there a few times before they banned climbing.


21 posted on 02/18/2019 2:35:24 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: Robert A Cook PE
We have high natural radon levels in Colorado.

Some scam artists have caught on. They will come into your home, show you a Geiger counter and then sell expensive "repairs."

22 posted on 02/18/2019 2:35:55 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You probably got a much lower dose than from those old shoe fitting machines. ;)


23 posted on 02/18/2019 2:37:00 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Reily

...One of the highlights was you could give them something metallic

Silver Dime
https://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/medalsmementoes/dimes.htm


24 posted on 02/18/2019 2:45:22 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: colorado tanker

Thanks for reminding me of the old RADON scam from thirty years ago.We bought an old house back then, and my worthless brother-in-law (If you know him he probably owes you money) came to me with his eyes WILD EYED look and asked..”Are you going to have it checked for radon?”

“Shoot no!” I said.

This was also about the time the scam of finding “stray electrical reactive voltage” from your electric wiring in your home also became popular.


25 posted on 02/18/2019 2:46:12 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DUMBGRUNT

...Do you still have it?
...Is it still emitting above background?

Radioactive silver, with a half-life of 22 seconds
Nope, not much radioactivity left


26 posted on 02/18/2019 2:50:10 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Great time to be there. Much of the area was largely unexplored into the 1950s. Uranium mining changed all that. Many a trail was opened with not a little dynamite. Slick rock country around Moab, Monticello, Blanding, west over to Hanksville, down into 4 corners and Monument Valley is great exploration. Too many yuppies there now I’m sure. Oh well.


27 posted on 02/18/2019 3:01:48 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: colorado tanker
"Some scam artists have caught on. They will come into your home, show you a Geiger counter and then sell expensive "repairs."

Realtors are in on the scam too, foisted by "Buyer's Realtors" whose job it is to make themselves look good to the Buyer by knocking a few thousand here and a few ten thousand there off of the selling price.

The Buyer's realtor pays for a home inspector to look for any flaws in the property. These guys will either do the radon level test themselves, or else contract it out to a "Radon Mitigation" outfit, most of which are sole proprietorships in my experience.

Here in Colorado, the average home Radon level is 6.8 pCi/L. But the EPA long ago put a finger in the wind and declared that anything over 4.0 is unsafe ("we have no idea what is safe and what isn't, but it never hurts to go overboard in the sacred job of Protecting The American Public from Hazards Known and Unknown, Foreign and Domestic, so we'll just pick this ridiculously low figure to make absolutely 500% certain"). So this means most Colorado homes are over the allegedly "safe" threshold figure.

Then the Buyer's Realtor comes back to the Seller & Seller's Realtor and goes, "Tsk tsk! We never suspected your home is a dangerous health hazard. My client is VERY concerned!" And they ask that you knock a few thousand off the selling price so they can pay for Radon Mitigation.

Unless the Buyer is a frightened snowflake, they have no intention of spending that extra little windfall on a useless, unneeded mitigation project (ie, covering the crawl spaces and/or basement with plastic "vapor shields" and installing ducts and big fans to suck the air out and vent it outside). They're going to keep the money since they know it's a crock too. But they'll pretend it's a real threat because, hey, money is money.

28 posted on 02/18/2019 3:19:46 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt" - Pr. Herbert Hoover)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

According to the lawyers, if the talcum powder don’t get the “entitled”, going to the Grand Canyon museum will.


29 posted on 02/18/2019 3:22:09 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

What do you mean “30 years ago”? See what I just posted. I faced this scam twice here in Colorado, once in 2016 and again in 2018, selling my Folks’ and sister’s homes, respectively.


30 posted on 02/18/2019 3:22:22 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt" - Pr. Herbert Hoover)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Thirty years ago. An old scam modernized for the new people buying today.

Nothing better than setting back and watching today’s young people fall for modern versions of old scams our grandparents warned us of when we were kids.


31 posted on 02/18/2019 3:25:55 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Yup! I also loved camping at Dead Horse Point S.P. I went on Spring Breaks in S.E. Utah over several decades (1970 to 2013). The earliest trips were as a teen with my family. The middle years were backpacking & canoe camping. And the later years were car-camping with my own kids.

It was those later years when we really appreciated DHPSP. Because in early-to-mid March, when it can still be quite cold in SE Utah in the evenings & early mornings, when our family of 4 shared a popup-camper trailer with my folks, it was a pleasure to use a State Park campground.

Unlike the NPS and USFS and BLM campgrounds, they had heated restrooms with hot running water that were like oases to us. And each camp spot had a low-wattage lightbulb mounted in a stone structure over the picnic table / grill, that you could turn on when you needed, and didn't detract from others' enjoyment of the campground. Not to mention that the electric outlet came in real handy.

The rim walks there were gorgeous. And I never tired of the thrill of that scary road down to Mineral Bottom a few miles NW of there.

32 posted on 02/18/2019 3:49:27 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt" - Pr. Herbert Hoover)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Yes, you're right about the door-to-door being a scam that people don't have to fall for. And shame on them if they're fooled.

But the realtor-propagated version of the scam isn't something you can just walk away from in every instance. Depends on the ratio of buyers to sellers at any moment.

33 posted on 02/18/2019 3:52:41 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt" - Pr. Herbert Hoover)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

True, very true.

And that all warmed (indoor, basement and treated) air? Sent right back outside into the cold outdoors! To be repalced by cold air that must be heated and filtered.

Airline pilots, stewardess and attendants, even frequent fliers get more gamma radiation by being above the shielding atmosphere layers for thousands of hours a year than do nuclear workers behind concrete and steel shields.

This “bucket of rocks” is nonsense. Yes, the rocks are radioactive. So is the Grand Canyon.


34 posted on 02/18/2019 4:00:41 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: Reily

I had an Uncle that worked at Oak Ridge National Labs from WWII until he retired. Even though we saw them at reunions every year and visited them, I never even went on a tour. We did get a few souvenirs like ashtrays and medallions.


35 posted on 02/18/2019 4:30:46 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: HangnJudge

Yeah it was change and probably much of it was silver at the time - 1968-1969 time frame. I found a box of change in the attic when I helped my brother clean out Mom & Dad’s house. It was probably in there! So it irradiated moths for a lot of years - maybe!

Now I have the explanation for WV’s Mothman !

:)


36 posted on 02/18/2019 4:34:48 PM PST by Reily
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To: Zathras

Yep. With uranium, it’s a lot more of an industrial hygiene concern than the radioactivity coming off it. I’d store depleted uranium in my basement for money if the government would let me do it.


37 posted on 03/31/2019 12:46:42 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Also some betas which travel a little farther than alpha but not much. Exactly, you’re fine as long as you’re not eating it.


38 posted on 03/31/2019 12:48:06 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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