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The Right Way to Cut College Costs
National Review ^ | 11/29/2018 | Brad Polumbo

Posted on 11/29/2018 7:31:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Textbooks.


21 posted on 11/29/2018 9:16:28 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Demanwideplan

Bernie Sanders lived with his parents until the age of 43?????????


22 posted on 11/29/2018 9:22:00 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

Students should be able to access all of their text books through e-books for a nominal fee. That would save hundreds each quarter.


23 posted on 11/29/2018 9:27:25 AM PST by shotgun
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To: SeekAndFind

Dramatic cost reductions can be achieved by terminating “fake disciplines” like gender and race studies, social justice programs and the like. Also, dismantle the political propaganda arms of university administration. You would be surprised at how cost to students will decline.


24 posted on 11/29/2018 9:39:32 AM PST by TheConservativeBanker
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To: Moonman62

>Colleges are there to enrich and subsidize liberals. Then comes indoctrination followed by education.<

And there, in a cogent nutshell is the crux of a college education.

And Bernie Sanders will not only agree, but encourage others to invest.

Great post.


25 posted on 11/29/2018 9:45:41 AM PST by sciencewriter86
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To: Yo-Yo

>Over the past 30 years, the TOTAL COST to educate a student to a bachelor’s degree at a public university hasn’t risen more than the rate of inflation.<

I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.


26 posted on 11/29/2018 9:51:10 AM PST by sciencewriter86
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To: Java4Jay

Too bad she isn’t getting an education she can use for a productive career!

No slam on you. When my son enrolled in community college, the only criteria that I put on him was for him to tell me what marketable skills he expected to gain from the classes. He tried for a year, then got a part-time job at the local Tractor Supply. He was full-time in 6 months, a team lead in another six months, an assistant manager a year later and a store manager, both to open a new store and then running existing stores a year after that. While he worries about not having the shingle, he is a productive, knowledgable and successful store manager now, with no college debt.


27 posted on 11/29/2018 9:58:32 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Disarming Liberals...Real Common Sense Gun Control!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
So it sounds as if, there is no incentive on the part of colleges, to rein in costs. Reason being, they can raise tuition and fees at will, and receive little push back, because students will simply end up borrowing more to cover the increases.

THAT, is in fact the plan, always was.

This whole scam is nothing more than money laundering.

The fed pays the bill for the student, the faculty sends the money to rats, and the taxpayer is hit for the loan.

The schools have no incentive to reduce costs, in fact, they have incentive to raise costs, as much as traffic(taxpayer) will bear.

28 posted on 11/29/2018 10:00:04 AM PST by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m hoping Uncle Sam comes through for me again. My brother and I both had full 4-year ROTC scholarships to excellent universities. Saved my parents $200K. My brother-in-law went to The Naval Academy. That’s about $120K he saved my inlaws (graduated early 90s). The Navy also paid for my brother-in-laws PHD from M.I.T. Not too shabby. He only had to give them 14 years. I stayed in 24, my brother 5 years. My oldest son (I have 3 boys) is 14 and seems very interested in going to a service academy. Fingers crossed. I’m staring down the barrel of 3 college tuition bills at once...


29 posted on 11/29/2018 10:07:16 AM PST by strider44
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To: SeekAndFind

Back in the day, I don’t remember anyone having large college loans.

A college degree means nothing today unless it’s a medical degree. Better to get skills training.


30 posted on 11/29/2018 10:12:11 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

Here’s another solution: tie any student loans/grants to the market value of the degree or certification being sought. Under that plan, students majoring in engineering, IT, accounting, nursing—careers with a future—would pay little/no interest on their loans.

At the other end, students pursuing a worthless degree in women’s/gender/minority studies, art history, journalism, etc., would pay an interest rate equal to that of a subprime auto loan. That would force many students and families to rethink little Johnny or Susie’s academic plans, and pursue something with a future, or pay 25% interest (or higher) on $50-100K worth of student debt. This dose of reality would also compel “scholars” in the field to produce research that is actually useful and lends credence to the degree. If they don’t (and students decide not pay confiscatory rates for a worthless diploma), these worthless fields of study will quickly die off, saving more money in academia.

One more thing regarding Purdue: Mitch Daniels has another card up his sleeve, if the academics raise too much of a fuss. When for-profit Kaplan University (once the profit center of the Washington Post) went under, Daniels bought what was left for $1. He has since rebranded Kaplan as Purdue Global and maintained its focus in on-line education. If the ivory tower folks rebel, Daniels can simply shift much of the instruction to the virtual classroom and hire more adjuncts.

I saw the same battle play out at a college I worked at a few years ago. The president was a raging lib, but he was also a realist. He led the push into on-line ed as the only way to save a slowly dying liberal arts school. When the tenured profs protested, he showed them the numbers: on-line was attracting far more students—and generating more revenue—than the campus ever could, and it was funding new construction and program expansion. He also drove home his point by freezing faculty hires on campus and hiring full-time on-line faculty. At that point, most of the on-campus profs decided to shut up and color.


31 posted on 11/29/2018 11:24:44 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: strider44

Tell your son to apply for all the service academies AND ROTC. These days, every new officer starts with the same type of commission, so the advantage of getting a “regular” commission out of West Point, Annapolis or USAFA is long since past. And, many schools with ROTC programs will offer free room and board to anyone who receives a full ride through ROTC.

I was an OTS product (Air Force) but later taught ROTC at an SEC school and interviewed applicants for USAFA. Still believe ROTC is the best option for getting your commission and education at the same time. I have a number of friends who are academy grads, and it is a personal choice. Do you want a traditional college experience while you train to become an officer, or the academy environment?


32 posted on 11/29/2018 11:30:19 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: SeekAndFind

The best way is to not go! Get a technical degree or certificate; begin an apprenticeship, learn a trade; get to work!
If it isn’t a STEM degree it ain’t worth jack. That’s the truth.


33 posted on 11/29/2018 12:04:35 PM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: Redleg Duke

I went to trade school, learned to be aircraft mechanic. Had to pay my dues then made it to the show. Worked 20 years at major airline on the line. Loved my job. That’s what I feal is important, passion for the job, not the money.


34 posted on 11/29/2018 12:06:02 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: camle
an influx of government dollars

The idea was based on a big lie: that college degree holders make more money. While there is some correlation, there is little evidence of causation. Bigger incomes are more strongly correlated with having a higher IQ, being raised with a strong conservative work ethic, having ambition, staying away from alcohol, drugs, and a big party life. Having religion helps too, the good kind, not the global warming or blowing things up religions.

There is enough evidence out there of before and after. Now that every high schooler that wants a degree has one, how are their incomes? The big lie believers may be shocked to find that not only did incomes adjusted for inflation went down, now people are in major debt to leftist Club Ed resorts. But the 6 years of their prime spent on alcohol, sex, drugs, and parties were epic.

35 posted on 11/29/2018 12:42:36 PM PST by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: Reeses

a lot of college graduates view a degree as a panacea to prosperity and a good life. it isn’t. the last time somebody pumped my gas it was a management graduate.


36 posted on 12/01/2018 4:22:55 PM PST by camle (keep and open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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