Posted on 08/11/2018 11:26:52 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
The horror at such historical and theological aberrations and the awareness of our share of guilt in the continued suffering of Jews give rise to a special responsibility to resist and oppose all forms of enmity and inhumanity towards Jews today." - 2015 Statement of The German Protestant Church
Was he wrong about selling indulgences? About the corruption of the church? Henry Ford was also an anti-Semite yet one of his vehicles sits in my driveway, although I cannot drive it anymore. We can separate the man from the movement.
He probably based his hatred on fake news of his day.
>>And so, the dark side of the Reformation needs some serious examination
And what is the result of your serious examination?
ML thought that, after he ‘purified’ the Church, Jews would see the error of their ways and sign up en masse. When they didn’t, he threw a tantrum. He certainly had many valid points about Church corruption, and those points did ultimately lead to internal reform at the Council of Trent. At the same time, his writings show that he was not a saintly person. He definitely had a mean, vulgar streak.
Nun.
There is no excusing Luther’s hateful anti-Jewish pamphlet. That never figured in Lutheran or Protestant thought. It was actually something that was censored and not widely published until the Nazis discovered it. Then it was hailed as how a “German Christian” should think. The left paints Naziism as some sort of hyper Christianity. Actually, Naziism was a weird mixture of socialism, nationalism, paganism and racism, with a lot of pseudo-scientific nonsense thrown in.
Christian history is terribly mottled with mistreatment of the Jews. But of course at one time or other every nonconforming group received some rough treatment from the Roman Catholic church.
The fact that the Holocaust could have been promulgated by those claiming to be Christians still sends shivers up my spine. It's not unlike abortion today, where major Christian denominations not only turn there backs, but even advocate for it. The Roman church is no exception, where the honchos give scant lip service to combating this evil, but allow the the Pelosis, and Tim Kaines and Kennedys to worship and commune freely without fear of rebuke.
Luther was similar in that to his antithesis - Albrecht of Mainz - but without the latter's misogyny. The Germans of those days were way past "earthy."
Then again, such sentiments were probably not uncommon in the “Christian” Germany and Europe in general of his day.
The Nazi Party attracted people who were anti-Christian or indifferent or who vaguely identified with the nationalistic aspects of a cultural Christianity. These were not a “church” type of people who read a lot of theology and the Bible and could arhue the fine points of Reformation theology. And for every Nazi leader you could name who grew up in a Protestant family, you could probably find one who grew up in a Catholic family. And there were allied fascist movements, that were bad but not centered on racism, in Catholic countries.
The German Protestant Church will express guilt over pretty much anything these days. You name it, they'll express guilt. They seem to gleefully wallow in guilt. They're just plain NUTS!
Making up links to what Luther said or wrote 600(!) years ago is just as nuts.
So according to your reading of Talmud (or the Cliff Notes), Luther had good reason for being an anti-semite?
Luther had a good reason to hate the Jewish religion. He quoted favorably from Jewish converts in the book. Orthodox Jews typically take any criticism of their religion as proof of insane hatred against all Jews. And they tend to blame their own misbehavior, even when the misbehavior is commanded by their Rabbis in the Talmud, on the paranoia and unexplained anti-semitism of the Gentiles.
So we’ll write off a major religion (and its people?) because of some fantastical parts of Talmud and a few dunderheads in Israel. Got it.
Read the OT. the LORD outdid anything Luther set his pen to. The steadfast love of the LORD is the star of the story of the Jews. GOD was faithful in spite of their endless rebellion.
And He is faithful in spite of ours!
Veronica Zaragovia : “According to LEGEND, on Oct 31,1517 Luther a copy of his 95 thesis ...”
History much?
lol You're the one reading these criticisms of Judaism and connecting it to the eradication of a people. But if we wrote off Judaism, and even pressed a button that somehow made it cease to exist, this would be a very good thing for Jews.
Apparently, you are writing them off. Which just goes to confirm some suspicions I have long held here...
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