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From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered (barf)
nyt ^ | 7/18/2018 | david sanger matthew rosenburg

Posted on 07/18/2018 7:55:06 PM PDT by bitt

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To: scbison
This is John Brennan leaking to NY times...

Ahhhhh.

Say, wasn't it Brennan who accused President Trump of treasonous acts? Isn't divulging highly classified information treasonous?

If not, somebody owes Benedict Arnold an apology.

21 posted on 07/18/2018 8:32:41 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no gstandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: bitt

It was a diplomatic mission and not a mission to start a war. President Trump did it right and didn’t give any real concessions.

Democrats and traitorous Republicans like nuclear war.


22 posted on 07/18/2018 8:34:25 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Texas Eagle

Who wrote the memo?


23 posted on 07/18/2018 8:35:15 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: CJ Wolf

Wouldn’t that be nice to know?


24 posted on 07/18/2018 8:37:14 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no gstandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: bitt

That’s clearly the message they want everyone to believe.
The CIA has given US plenty of reasons not to believe them.


25 posted on 07/18/2018 8:40:17 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: CJ Wolf

There will be lots of color you will be missing. Each thing, every thing, all things related to the supposed culpability of DJT in Russia, collusion, and now Kristallnacht-grade treason by not punching Vladimir Putin in the face at Helsinki have zero evidence backing them up. It is just a pile up of innuendo. That pile really needs to be weighed against the actual true facts that exist showing Democrat collusion. Only one of which is:

The FBI were never granted access to the DNC server. That server is now missing. Comey testified that testing and examining the original server was a “best practice” in terms of a penetration investigation.

Instead, the FBI is largely taking the word of Crowdstrike, an organization with significant Democrats on its board of directors. But even if Crowdstrike was pure as the driven snow, the very idea that the FBI is relying upon secondhand information and feckless douchebag Republicans are accepting of this should be maddening.

That this investigation is using as (what should be) the prime, fundamental piece of evidence whether or not DJT et al actually colluded; in what is arguably the greatest fraud ever perpetrated in the history of the US; that of overthrowing the results of an election; NOT the actual server, but a secondhand interpretation of a probably partisan examination...is or should be unacceptable.


26 posted on 07/18/2018 8:41:52 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: bitt

Where is the fucking evidence?

Wikileaks - they say that the emails went to WikiLeaks from Russia prove it have they talked to WikiLeaks?

Have they done friend six study of the DNC server?

Buncha bullshit is what it is. done


27 posted on 07/18/2018 8:42:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Spygate's clock began in 2015 - what did President Obama know and when did he know it)
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To: canuck_conservative

And they’ve already admitted the facbook ads did not sway the numbers


28 posted on 07/18/2018 8:43:39 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Spygate's clock began in 2015 - what did President Obama know and when did he know it)
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To: Jim Robinson

Why did Obama put a known communist in charge of the CIA?


29 posted on 07/18/2018 8:44:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Spygate's clock began in 2015 - what did President Obama know and when did he know it)
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To: a fool in paradise

Hey! Language please.


30 posted on 07/18/2018 8:45:44 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: snarkytart

Never forget that guilty as shit Billy Ayers is free as a bird even though he bombed the Pentagon in a terrorist act in support of North Vietnam during a war.

His rights were violated because of improper monitoring by the FBI supposedly allegedly…


31 posted on 07/18/2018 8:47:05 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Spygate's clock began in 2015 - what did President Obama know and when did he know it)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Partially right, several things incorrect.


32 posted on 07/18/2018 8:47:25 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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11 Dec 2016: Craig Murray: The CIA’s Absence of Conviction
There is no Russian involvement in the leaks of emails showing Clinton’s corruption. Yes this rubbish has been the lead today in the Washington Post in the US and the Guardian here, and was the lead item on the BBC main news. I suspect it is leading the American broadcasts also.

As Julian Assange has made crystal clear, the leaks did not come from the Russians. As I have explained countless times, they are not hacks, they are insider leaks – there is a major difference between the two. And it should be said again and again, that if Hillary Clinton had not connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie, if she had not received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie, if she had not accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence, if she had not failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened...

The continued ability of the mainstream media to claim the leaks lost Clinton the election because of “Russia”, while still never acknowledging the truths the leaks reveal, is Kafkaesque.

I had a call from a Guardian journalist this afternoon. The astonishing result was that for three hours, an article was accessible through the Guardian front page which actually included the truth among the CIA hype:

Guardian excerpt: The Kremlin has rejected the hacking accusations, while the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has previously said the DNC leaks were not linked to Russia. A second senior official cited by the Washington Post conceded that intelligence agencies did not have specific proof that the Kremlin was “directing” the hackers, who were said to be one step removed from the Russian government.
Craig Murray, the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, who is a close associate of Assange, called the CIA claims “bullshit”, adding: “They are absolutely making it up.”
“I know who leaked them,” Murray said. “I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider. It’s a leak, not a hack; the two are different things.
“If what the CIA are saying is true, and the CIA’s statement refers to people who are known to be linked to the Russian state, they would have arrested someone if it was someone inside the United States.
“America has not been shy about arresting whistleblowers and it’s not been shy about extraditing hackers. They plainly have no knowledge whatsoever.”...(end of excerpt)

But only three hours. While the article was not taken down, the home page links to it vanished and it was replaced by a ludicrous one repeating the mad CIA allegations against Russia and now claiming – incredibly – that the CIA believe the FBI is deliberately blocking the information on Russian collusion. Presumably this totally nutty theory, that Putin is somehow now controlling the FBI, is meant to answer my obvious objection that, if the CIA know who it is, why haven’t they arrested somebody...ETC
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/12/cias-absence-conviction/


33 posted on 07/18/2018 8:49:37 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: CJ Wolf

I guess you don’t have time to explain your summary, either.


34 posted on 07/18/2018 8:52:08 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: MAGAthon

with all these stories saying it was a hack, it feels like the information that WikiLeaks has will be coming out soon. Feels like deep state maybe getting setup.IMO


35 posted on 07/18/2018 8:57:53 PM PDT by scbison
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To: bitt

This is also an old story I read this same explanation around the time Trump was briefed.


36 posted on 07/18/2018 9:00:19 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: MAGAthon

Usually the UK has pretty quick access to happenings in the US. Photos, txts, etc. I think it’s could be called the 5 eyes effect. I think they got a huge leak on thier side
the US media has no access to.

The guardian is total ds


37 posted on 07/18/2018 9:01:11 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: MAGAthon

look how long this nonsense has been going on with the Intel Agencies refusing to co-operate:

14 Dec 2016: Washington Times: WikiLeaks figure says ‘disgusted’ Democrat leaked Clinton campaign emails
By Dave Boyer
Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, said in the report by the Daily Mail that he flew to Washington for a clandestine handoff with one of the email sources in September.
He said he received a package in a wooded area near American University.
“Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,” Mr. Murray told the British newspaper. “The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”...

Meanwhile on Wednesday, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence had to cancel a closed-door classified briefing on the issue of suspected Russian interference after U.S. intelligence agencies refused to cooperate.

Rep. Devin Nunes, California Republican and committee chairman, requested that the FBI, CIA, Office of the Director of National Intelligence and National Security Agency provide witnesses, in part in response to reports last week in The Washington Post and The New York Times that intelligence agencies think the Kremlin deliberately tried to push the election to Mr. Trump, something not supported by postelection testimony to the panel.
But according to Fox News, “agencies refused to provide representatives for the session.”...

“It is unacceptable that the Intelligence Community directors would not fulfill the House Intelligence Committee’s request to be briefed tomorrow on the cyber-attacks that occurred during the presidential campaign,” Mr. Nunes said in a statement. “The Committee is deeply concerned that intransigence in sharing intelligence with Congress can enable the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes.”

Kellyanne Conway, Mr. Trump’s campaign manager, accused people within intelligence agencies of trying to undermine the U.S. election results to curry favor with liberal media and are now ducking accountability.
“We should all be very concerned about that,” she said in an appearance on Fox News Channel...

Departing Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, compared the alleged Russian hacking to terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people on U.S. soil. “I think this is as big a deal as Watergate, as 9/11,” he said.

The White House said Mr. Obama waited until October, just weeks before the election, to raise concerns about Russia’s involvement because he didn’t want to appear to be playing politics with the issue.

The (Obama) administration eventually did issue warnings to state election officials and said there was no evidence of Russian interference via the internet on Election Day...
The White House still won’t say whether the U.S. has retaliated against what it describes as Russian efforts to influence the election of Donald Trump. “It merits a proportional response. I am not in a position to confirm whether we have initiated it or not,” Mr. Earnest said...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/14/craig-murray-says-source-of-hillary-clinton-campai/


38 posted on 07/18/2018 9:02:00 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

First glance. I’ll get to it watching the color to confirm.


39 posted on 07/18/2018 9:03:01 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: bitt

Nothing interfered with our elections according to Rod Rosenstien, spokesman for the deep state. “ Not one vote was changed” !!!! Wake up. These are LIES!!


40 posted on 07/18/2018 9:05:54 PM PDT by raiderboy (Trump has assured us that he will shut down the government to get the WALL in Sept.ith the solar)
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