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Gudrun Burwitz, ever-loyal daughter of Nazi mastermind Heinrich Himmler, dies at 88
https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ^ | 7/1/18 | Matt Schudel

Posted on 07/01/2018 10:09:18 AM PDT by BBell

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To: DesertRhino

Jehovah’s Witnesses: The only religious group specifically singled out by Hitler for extermination.


81 posted on 07/02/2018 12:55:20 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Get off my lawn and GTFO of my country.)
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To: Levy78
His daughter is not responsible for the sins of her father.

I have Family that died for our survival, here, in America. And when America, called upon them to serve, to fight and die for the good of others, the Navajo Nation, the Diné, left our Dinétah, and died over there.

A spear is a responsibility to wield upon others...

82 posted on 07/05/2018 10:11:40 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: BBell

Look, I am disgusted with the Nazis myself, and hold Himmler in particular in utter contempt for his attempting to use humans like he did his chickens, not just with his role in the Holocaust, but also his role in the Lebensborne project, which involved the mass kidnapping and utter brainwashing of certain kids with blond hair and blue eyes (I’d even argue the Lebensborne have a lot of needless blame heaped onto them, being very much victims like the Jews). I’ll even go so far as to say that ultimately they’re no different from the Soviets in terms of atrocious behavior, not to mention other Communists. However, do we REALLY need to condemn his daughter? The only thing she might be guilty of is being defensive about her father. Unless you can provide evidence that she had played any direct and key roles in the holocaust, lebensborne, or any other Nazi crimes, we shouldn’t do a witch hunt on her or condemn her.

Sure, I would probably prefer it if she was more like Svletyana Stalin where she at least acknowledged her father was a truly monstrous individual, but she still hasn’t actually done anything bad beyond defending her father who happened to be a monster (which, BTW, one of the Commandments of the Bible literally demands we honor our mother and father). I thought “Sins of the Father” was something we are past now.


83 posted on 07/06/2018 11:57:59 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Technically, what you’re proposing regarding her is more like Luke deciding to kill Vader despite knowing he’s his father and heeding Obi-Wan’s statement of killing him, and THEN turning to the dark side anyways. Remember, speaking out against your father =/= being a good guy. In fact, Citizen Louis voted against his own brother for the death penalty, and I don’t think many people would call HIM good.


84 posted on 07/06/2018 12:00:18 PM PDT by otness_e
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To: DesertRhino

Can you stop implying that the Nazis and the CIA were responsible for JFK’s assassination? That was Soviet disinformation made during the Cold War, literally a day after that event in fact, under the codename Operation Dragon (and I’d know about this because Ion Mihai Pacepa was the one who revealed this). If anything, it’s the Soviets who were responsible for JFK’s assassination. Blame the Soviets, in other words.


85 posted on 07/06/2018 12:03:12 PM PDT by otness_e
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Unfortunately there are lots of people today who would do exactly the same as Heinrich Himmler, but we can’t just round them all up and hang them, can we? I know some of them personally. They’re deluded and pissed off about something that’s a total lie. They can’t be reasoned with. I can only pray that God will some day save them from their own foolishness.


86 posted on 07/07/2018 4:36:51 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Oh, I agree with you, there are a whole lot of people who are the types to do what Himmler did (heck, you could even argue Marx was like that, since one of the reasons he formed such a sick ideology as Communism was specifically so he’d make a gorier remake of Robespierre’s Reign of Terror). The problem is we can’t do anything against them unless they make the first move. And in her case, AFAIK, despite defending that monster of a man (even if said monster of a man IS her father), she never seemed to try to continue his disgusting work in any significant way (and believe me, she had plenty of chances to do so, like I don’t know, starting up her own Neo-Nazi organization, or even running into politics under a similar platform, whatever she puts her mind to. Heck, she didn’t even travel to America to participate in that Neo-Nazi march on that Jewish neighborhood that the ACLU defended a while back AFAIK.).


87 posted on 07/07/2018 4:59:22 AM PDT by otness_e
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