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Freak Accident of Chemistry Sunk Russia's Aircraft-Killer Submarine
National Interest ^ | Jun 24, 2018 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 06/24/2018 7:41:31 AM PDT by Eddie01

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To: Steely Tom

Exactly! An “explosion” of concentrated Hydrogen Peroxide is NOT “Freak Accident of Chemistry”, but the normal result of improper handling.


21 posted on 06/24/2018 10:07:12 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (uires sonm)
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To: Steely Tom; SJSAMPLE

Your mention of the Lance missile reminded me that one of the major model kit companies has produced two 1/35 scale models of the Lance: one is on a ground launched trailer and the other is mounted on the M-548/M-113 chassis that was the Lance prime mover and launcher. I will provide the name of the company via freepmail if you request it.


22 posted on 06/24/2018 10:10:28 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Eddie01

I think we experimented wHydrogen Peroxide and abandoned it as too unstable.


23 posted on 06/24/2018 10:30:12 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: CrazyIvan

It’s used at about 20% concentration in some pool chemicals. Even at that strength it’s a powerful oxidizer and even a drop will cause a mild chemical burn that definitely stings. This is from my own direct, personal experience.


24 posted on 06/24/2018 10:30:51 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Eddie01
Isn't this the same theory about the loss of the USS Scorpion? A torpedo malfunctioned and detonated and the boat was lost.

USS Scorpion

25 posted on 06/24/2018 10:33:45 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: jjotto

Dont have to, they make machines that do it safely.


26 posted on 06/24/2018 11:34:56 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: headstamp 2

Always wondered if they could flood a forward or aft compartment with sufficient air and have the sub go vertical underwater, bringing one of the ends closer to the surface. In a couple hundred feet of water, would get survivors closer to the surface?


27 posted on 06/24/2018 11:47:45 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: McGavin999

hydrogen peroxide also when not explosive (but still catalyzing) gives off pure oxygen and hydrogen which at high enough densities can cause massive flash fires (igniting/damaging other things)


28 posted on 06/24/2018 5:50:48 PM PDT by elbook
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To: Secret Agent Man

Years ago, at a place I worked, we had a computer test server named ‘Kursk’. Some other employee wondered thought it odd that it had been named after a disaster.

The truth was : it had been named by a history buff friend of mine there, after a major land battle in WW2 (a russian victory). Numerous Other servers were named after other major historic battles (but their names were more obscure and not ones who’s name was recently in the news).


29 posted on 06/24/2018 5:56:43 PM PDT by elbook
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30 posted on 06/24/2018 6:00:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: hanamizu

Put in perspective, the water wasn’t as deep as the submarine was long. If you stood it on end, about 50 feet would have been sticking out of the water. But those poor sailors might as well have been on the far side of the moon.


31 posted on 06/25/2018 4:23:52 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: Steely Tom

Jesus, that Nike missile.
I used to launch Lance missiles off the island of Crete in the summer. It was the NAAMFI installation, and it was also used for Hawk and Nike missiles used by our allies. Great shows. Often, the Nike-Hercules would rise on it’s boosters, and when they’d cut out, it would start to fall backwards until (hopefully) the main engines cut in. That seemed like forever.


32 posted on 06/25/2018 5:08:36 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: GreyFriar

Yeah, the trailer was called “Launcher Zero Length” and was actually the launch fixture unbolted from the M-752 launcher with wheels bolted on. It was used for air-mobile operations which were sorta cool. Every year or so, we’d unbolt the thing and sling it under a Blackhawk or Chinook and lug it hundred miles or so to conduct training missions.


33 posted on 06/25/2018 5:11:30 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: hanamizu

Not impossible at all. In the end political dithering killed the surviving crew. The Russian rescue craft were useless from lack of maintenance. Clinton wanted to help but was poorly advised to stand down. We could have had our people waiting within sight for when the Russian government swallowed their pride. I got this info from an American DSRV driver.


34 posted on 06/26/2018 6:15:55 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (A gentleman arms himself for the protection of others.)
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