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1 posted on 04/17/2018 7:54:09 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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From the article, Peggy joined the church for philosophical reasons. She might have a different take on issues if it was for salvation.


25 posted on 04/17/2018 8:48:39 PM PDT by robel
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It’s a good idea for her to leave the church physically. She has already left it mentally and spiritually. No point continuing the hypocrisy.

She is caught up in matters of this world and places zero value on the next world, the spiritual world, and the true Biblical Jesus. She has made up her own Jesus, who she likes better than the one in the Bible. This new fictional Jesus lines up with all of her social views and never says anything harsh.

She no longer has to worry about her children. Everybody’s fine. Whatever they want to believe is good, and God will surely bless them for it.

So, what should we do on Sundays from now on?


27 posted on 04/17/2018 8:55:26 PM PDT by Rocky (I have principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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The author was bitten by the Social Justice bug.

Yes, evangelical preachers are wrong to get giddy about Trump the adulterer. John the Baptist condemned Herod for his adulterous relationship with his sister in law.

But the choice was not for Trump the righteous among evangelicals. The choice was for Trump the flawed v. Hillary the socialist.


29 posted on 04/17/2018 9:16:42 PM PDT by lurk
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I’m considering filing for divorce. On the grounds of infidelity and betrayal — and I’m heartsick.

The Bible supports divorce in the case of adultery. So what's her problem?

30 posted on 04/17/2018 9:27:18 PM PDT by Kazan
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Back in the 1980s, Peggy Wehmeyer was working for Channel 8 TV WFAA as the religion reporter. She was assigned to report on the finding of dead unborn babies found in a trash dumpster behind an abortion clinic. The woman who found them is one of my best friends. Peggy came with a cameraman and they filmed my friend opening up the trash bags filled with coffee grounds, cigarette butts and little unborn babies. over 900 babies were recovered.

Back at the station, when all the film was being prepared for the evening news, a very interesting thing happened. They put the film on a continuous loop while they were deciding what to keep and what to cut. Everyone, pro-life and pro-choice viewed it and to a person were shocked to the core at what they saw to the point where the entire room got into an uproar - all against abortion.

The broadcast brought awareness about abortion in Dallas. A city law was passed that required abortion clinics to not put the babies in the trash. The 900 babies were honored and buried in a Catholic cemetery.

Peggy did a great job with the story.

33 posted on 04/17/2018 9:40:01 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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Wondering if anyone else read this and what your thoughts are.

Seems she has liberal kids who seems to spout liberal lies such as that evangelical spurn humanitarian work, unlike liberals, when in reality they are foremost providers of i t, along with some evangelism, which libs do not believe in

In South Chicago, I drove into a virtual war zone to watch my youngest daughter teach special ed to third graders at risk of being shot on their way home from school. "Can't you teach in a safer neighborhood?" I pled with her. "But Mom," she said, "If we're the hands and feet of Jesus -- like you taught us -- this is where we need to be."

And then they confusing the Lord's mercy to the penitent as seeing criminals as victims, and thus present Jesus as being like them:

I went to the federal courthouse to watch my daughter, a public defender, fight for a fair sentence for a guilty felon in shackles.

"Why are you defending the bad guys," I queried her. "Don't you think Jesus would have been a prosecutor?" "Are you kidding, Mom? He hung out with prostitutes and sinners. He's for the disenfranchised and powerless. If I'm going to follow Jesus, I follow him into the prisons."

As if evangelicals are not often victims of unjust prosecution but who are very active visiting those in prison.

And they must imagine the Lord Jesus as choosing female apostles, and confuse outward form of overall dying churches for substance:

When my two daughters broke with the evangelical megachurch that helped raise them, one stepped into an Episcopalian congregation, wooed by the beauty of its liturgy; the other bonded with Methodists, who allow women to preach and have a long history of social activism.

We seem to have gotten it backwards. Instead of making our mission to serve and protect the most vulnerable, the church now seems desperate to BE served and protected. Trump's promise to protect evangelicals is so delicious and tempting that, like Adam and Eve, my sisters and brothers have reached for an apple that could lead to their undoing.

Which is more deception, since it is evangelicals who are the most committed and active in serving others, and protecting the most vulnerable - whom her liberal friends kill in the womb or in hospital beds - and minister to the most vulnerable (who, once born, are mostly in other counties), but as her own testimony at ABC affirms, are marginalized and maligned and attacked for not being politically correct.

Thus it is no wonder they stand behind a non-Christian president who refuses to be politically correct, and instead actually is the most, if hardly wholly, pro evangelical president, which a VP who is, and thus is an assent to help serve and protect the most vulnerable.

The problem is however, that all too few evangelicals are as active as they should be in so doing, but which is just what liberals hope they do not become!

34 posted on 04/17/2018 9:43:28 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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I guess she would be a CINO. The gospel is NOT that Jesus is “A” God who became a man and laid down his life so we could do the same. Be came to be the Saviour of a dammed world..which is constantly dying. His life was filled with fulfilled prophesies from Hebrew prophets.He rose from the dead, as proof of his power and authority to save the world...funny how she left that out.Believing in the resurrection of Christ may lead to sacrificial service...but he came to saved dying and doomed man(person?)kind.
Matthew 7:22-23 is for her and her family (and me also) to read.

Her piece is a sad expose of her ignorance of what she claimed to “believe” in.


36 posted on 04/17/2018 9:52:16 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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And He changeth the times and the seasons; He removeth kings and setteth up kings. He giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding.-Daniel 2:21

Pretty damned hubris of her to challenge the will of God

39 posted on 04/17/2018 10:25:30 PM PDT by txroadkill (This space for rent)
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A person who has made a shipwreck of their faith if they ever had it to begin with.


42 posted on 04/17/2018 10:40:54 PM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggeest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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I read it....what hubris

This is the explicit example of the wussy RINO who wants pretty things and no arguments. She loves running with the DC swamp and all its attendant evil and justifies it. Then when average Americans vote for jobs and strength she goes all wobbly.

Moron let her children become SJW and it sounds like she’s going to become one too. This is the danger of liberation theology


43 posted on 04/17/2018 11:02:55 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To read later


52 posted on 04/17/2018 11:40:21 PM PDT by Guenevere (The wrath of God has come upon them at last.....)
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Trump wasn’t running in a vacuum. He wasn’t running against Hillary. All the “how can you be a Evangelical Christian and support a guy who did......” can be answered with “how can you be a Evangelical Christian and not vote against a woman who....”


53 posted on 04/17/2018 11:49:40 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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This woman’s misunderstanding of Christianity is complete. She wants the Church of Secular Politics.


55 posted on 04/18/2018 1:36:01 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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So she claims to searches for God’s Truth but complains that the evangelicals are homophobic, misogynistic and not true-believers because she hates Trump.

She likes the Episcopal and Methodist churches because they let her daughters be priests and her daughters claim they’re doing what Jesus would do by teaching the poor in Chicago and being a public-defender (while she herself claims that Jesus would be the prosecutor - really? 30 years of evangelicalism and she thinks Jesus would be the prosecutor?!)

She side loads all the social justice points - Jesus would love the Dreamers (oh you mean the illegal immigrants that were used by the social justice loving peoples to pay citizens more? How do you think Chicago got to be so “poor”?!)

She claims Millenials are more enlightened than she is because they seemingly do what Jesus would do. Really? This is the same generation that eats tide pods, thinks sex is all about snap chatting and are such simpletons that they think if they’re just self-righteous and take part in protests and like the right things on Facebook that they’re the beautiful people and hate, despise and destroy anyone who gets in their way. That doesn’t sound very Christ-like to me.

Shall we move on? What about her judgemental behavior of Trump? Is it no Christ-like to forgive? She whines and moans that Trump is a philanderer - yet the very SAME social justice crowd she thinks is so enlightened defended Bill Clinton AND CONTINUE to defend Bill Clinton with his actions towards Monica Lewinsky... a man in power assaulted his employee - Trump paid a prostitute for sex long before he was in office.

Does she not think the enlightened lesbians she claims to love and defend don’t say things like grabbing their lovers by the pussy?

She doesn’t want the truth - she wants to believe in a happy socialist utopia that’s better than God’s utopia because God was written down by the evil patriarchy and the millenials will write a better God (and I bet she’s pro-choice now too)


58 posted on 04/18/2018 2:32:59 AM PDT by Skywise
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Now, in my weekly Bible study, where we pray over our joys and concerns, I'm hesitant to bring up my angst over my crumbling marriage to the family of faith I once called home.

This woman does not have a born-again relationship with Jesus. She is looking for a denomination to provide that.

60 posted on 04/18/2018 3:57:13 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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Maybe you can reach out, help her along the road to becoming an intelluctual.


61 posted on 04/18/2018 4:05:52 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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I read it, waiting for her to come to a point which she never seemed to do. So here's what I've gleaned:

I joined a church that was once a headlight, pointing the way to personal redemption and social justice.

the story of a God who became human and vulnerable, gave up his power, and laid down his life for us so that we might do the same for others.

steering the church back to that original mission.

My conclusion is the she really doesn't know what the gospel is.

64 posted on 04/18/2018 5:09:14 AM PDT by tbpiper
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I waded through most of it. She is not a Christian. She worships Social Justice, and stayed with Christianity only so long as it was useful in advancing Social Justice.


65 posted on 04/18/2018 5:17:01 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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I can see where she’s coming from when using an emotional argument. However, we didn’t elect a pastor, we elected a President. Certainly Trump has his flaws and his history. He owns his history, which is exceedingly rare.

We’ve torn apart the Access Hollywood tape enough to know that it was a bunch of hooey.

The Daniels story seems to be falling apart. There is no evidence beyond her say so. She’s on her stripper tour making money off of it. In three months, she disappears down the memory hole and he’s left trying to fix his image from a false and spurious allegation.

Evangelical churches are made up of people. We all have our flaws. Losing your kids to Methodist and Episcopal churches seems to be more of a failure of the family. Sure, they’re still going to church, but not ones that generally practice biblical faith. THe kids are flowing the faith of what’s happenin’ today rather than the faith of timeless scripture.


66 posted on 04/18/2018 5:22:07 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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The article boils down to "Leave the Church ... cuz Trump!" Pathetic. The Bible shows many instances of God using men of questionable morale character for His purposes. If God were to use exclusively "perfect" men for His work on Earth, nothing would be accomplished beyond Jesus' span here. The article leaves me questioning if the author knows her Bible at all.


67 posted on 04/18/2018 5:39:57 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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