Russia's Devious New Battlefield Tactic: Use Tanks as Decoys to Kill Enemy Artillery

http://nationalinterest.org/ ^ | 3/17/18 | Michael Peck

[BBell]

Well they learned Japanese in the penal system so they may have had a criminal accent.

[BBell]

I remember the line and the context but I can’t place it for the life of me.

[dfwgator]

[17th Miss Regt]

BOOM! (Tank main gun fires)

Tank commander: “Driver reverse and move out to alternate position!”

Driver: “Commander, we may have a problem. It’s not going into reverse.”

Tank commander: “Driver reverse and MOVE OUT!”

Driver: “Looks like a transmission problem. It’s not going into reverse.”

BOOM! (Counterbattery fire arrives)

[DMZFrank]

I am hidden away in the turret on the right side of the tank. That particular day, I was filling in on the company commander’s tank has a temporary replacement gunner, until repairs on my tank were completed. It had run over a mine and blown off a couple of road wheel arms and road wheels.

NOBODY who spent time out in the bush stayed dry in Vietnam. You were just more or less wet on any particular day, especially during monsoon season!!!

[DMZFrank]

I hear ya, brother. Alpha-4 was worse. Both C-2 and A-4 were well within range of NVA arty and rockets. We got quite a bit up there.

[NorseViking]

“” “” Let me get this straight, use tanks as sacrificial lambs in place of mobile arty to draw fire so you can use your arty to counter fire because you have crap sigint.”” “”

Maneuvering tanks are bad targets for indirect counter-battery fire no matter how quick the reaction time.

[cpdiii]

“How well could the U.S. military perform this?”

I am sure we can but it is not really important in a conflict with Russia. The side that is losing will go to tactical nukes and the other side will bring in their tactical nukes which will soon escalate to strategic nukes landing on Russian and American homeland. Russia nor America will ever go to war with each other in a head to head conflict. Neither side wants to die!

[cpdiii]

Forgot to add this. The GDP of Western Europe and America is about 30 times that of Russia. If our European Allies would pull their heads out of the socialistic asses we can crush Russia with ease via economics without firing one damn bullet. Trump understands this and Russia fears Trump not Hillary.

[sphinx]

Self propelled artillery? Shoot and scoot? My goodness, whatever will they think of next. Glad we have the press to keep us abreast of the latest developments.

[zeestephen]

Re: “This is all neocon scare tactics.”

The Democrats are “all in” on this, too.

I channel surf through C-Span several times each day.

I cannot believe how many Clinton and Obama era executive appointees are giving anti-Russia briefings to the Democrat think tanks in D.C.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Already considered about losing satellites. Artillery now sources from satellite, high, medium (like AWACS) and low altitude aircraft and drones (some at unit level), with intent to use very high altitude systems (again drones), even low tech stuff like weather balloons for winds, long in use.

It is very holistic intelligence gathering.

[tcrlaf]

There have been articles on FR about Russia decentralizing command and control for fifteen years. This is not new news.

It has been one of Putin’s primary reforms of the Russian Military, moving away from Soviet-era ideas.

[tcrlaf]

The rebels used $79 Chinese mass marker drones/ kids toys connected to iPhones to great effect in the Ukrainian Civil War.

They proved to be much more effective and widely used than the $350,000 junk drones the Marines didn’t want, that were given to government troops.

[jdsteel]

Yeah. The article acts like we wouldn’t be able to see everything they are doing as they do it. Ridiculous.

[Zhang Fei]

I am hidden away in the turret on the right side of the tank. That particular day, I was filling in on the company commander’s tank has a temporary replacement gunner, until repairs on my tank were completed. It had run over a mine and blown off a couple of road wheel arms and road wheels.

NOBODY who spent time out in the bush stayed dry in Vietnam. You were just more or less wet on any particular day, especially during monsoon season!!!

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Thanks for the update. I thought that was just a great photo.

We (and the free nations of that region) owe you and your brothers-in-arms a debt that we cannot fully repay. A leader in the region, a man Kissinger dubbed “the mayor of a middle-sized city”, was extremely grateful, although he let his actions, rather than mere words, do the talking:
http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/mr-lee-told-americans-what-they-ought-to-do

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I met Lee Kuan Yew when he came to Harvard in 1967. Singapore had just become an independent country, and Lee its Prime Minister. At that time, all the Harvard faculty knew about him was that he was the head of a semi-socialist party, so they assumed he was a “brother” who would agree with their political judgments. He came into the room, dynamic, electric, as he always was, and he said, “I’d like to hear what you all think about Vietnam.” They proceeded to debate whether Lyndon Johnson was a psychopath or merely a war criminal. They did not come to a final conclusion. The Dean turned to Lee expecting great approval. He said: “Now, Mr Prime Minister, we would like to hear what you think.” Lee Kuan Yew replied: “You make me sick.”

Those were the first words that I ever heard him say. He went on to explain why a strong, self-confident America was essential to the balance of his region. He said Singapore could not survive in a world in which America, out of self-doubt, did not play its indispensable role.
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[TheNext]

Nope need no A10 Warthogs.

Tank destruction is simple as a parachute and deadly.