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#MeToo on the 1930s Silver Screen
WTOP ^ | March 3, 2018 | Marsha Gordon, North Carolina State University

Posted on 03/03/2018 3:05:22 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: nopardons

Well, I “did” say he was accused of the murder, and I agree - He was almost certainly innocent of that particular charge. .. 8<)


21 posted on 03/03/2018 4:41:19 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: nickcarraway

The battle of the sex’s is designed into the systems intelligently.


22 posted on 03/03/2018 4:56:04 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: nickcarraway
She was there, with here female "pimp" ( who was the one telling lies about Fatty before and during the trails ) and NOBODY really knows what happened in that room. I won't write why Rappe should NOT have been out of her bed or anywhere, least of all at a party, in detail, but she had recently had an operation and had diseased bladder.

He wasn't a known "harasser"/molester.

I suggest that you read up on him and this "scandal".

23 posted on 03/03/2018 6:02:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: a fool in paradise
Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh... so you too have seen the films of Ruth Chatteron, the "man eater". :-)

Manny also did the drab "good girl", who is a great little secretary/whatever, who has a makeover and the boss then falls in love her and MARRIES her, with no hanky-panky/harassment.

Movies used to cover all spectrums and they were far better than the garbage that is churned out today.

24 posted on 03/03/2018 6:09:11 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Moonmad27
I've seen many of these on TCM and have them on discs; but didn't know that they are on YouTube. Thanks, I'll check it out.

Yes, Joel McCrea was great and I've seen most, if not all of his early films.

25 posted on 03/03/2018 6:12:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Robert A Cook PE
True, yes you did use a modifier.

Considering the fact that Rappe's Madame/pimp/procuress was the ONLY one who accused Fatty of "rape" and murder, after she had tried to blackmail him and he wouldn't pay her off, and her terrible performance during the trials, he absolutely was innocent.

26 posted on 03/03/2018 6:16:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: DakotaGator
Good grief! Men use power to get sex. Women use sex to get power.

Down here at the level of the hoi polloi, the expression is "Women give sex to get security while men give security to get sex."

Donald Trump's rendition of your version caused him "a whole heap of trouble" during the campaign! Probably because it was accurate for many in the circles of wealth & power.

(BTW, did anyone ever learn which Asian knitting sweatshop got the contract for all those identical "P****" hats that showed up almost instantly? I find it hard to believe that that many 'modern, liberated women' knew how to knit their own hats. Or that Knitting Crafts-R-Us had that much pink variegated yarn in stock!)

27 posted on 03/03/2018 6:57:36 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: nopardons

Yes, the pre-code movies were filled with fun sex or dour social messages. The head of Film Forum in Manhattan is an expert on pre-code and runs them all the time. It’s how I discovered the protean Lee Tracy. I like pre-code very much and couldn’t care less with what some dumb broad in North Carolina has to say about “sex harassment” in the 1920s. I prefer to take my Louise Brooks and Thelma Todd and Stanwyck and my beloved Clara Bow neat.

Fatty was innocent. Miss Rappe had a habit of going wild and undressing at parties and later claiming assault. He was railroaded because he was fat-shamed, if you can believe it!


28 posted on 03/03/2018 7:09:47 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: a fool in paradise

I prefer Ralph Kramden’s and Ed Norton’s version of The Hucklebuck.


29 posted on 03/03/2018 7:12:29 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Honeymooners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vihnr5dM3PM


30 posted on 03/03/2018 7:25:26 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
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To: miss marmelstein

No idea how Frank Sinatra danced it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X9lOWg7fNM


31 posted on 03/03/2018 7:28:28 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
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To: miss marmelstein
As usual, your thoughtful, educated post is spot on.

Even the movies made during the early day of the "CODE", such as GRAND HOTEL, DINNER AT EIGHT, LADY FOR A DAY, and so many others, had themes and dialogue that many people might consider to not really living up to the code.

I am a HUGE fan of PRE-CODE movies, and of course, you know my addiction to movies staring Warren William, Paul Lukas, the Barrymores, etc.! :-)

Brooks, Shearer,Stanwyck, Harlow, Davis, and Crawford all played strong women ( and they ALL really were strong women! ) who would put the lie to the stupid theme of this article.

The little moron, who wrote this article is a brain dead twit, who is absolutely ignorant and brainwashed. She has NOTHING of any value, whatsoever to to say about this topic.

Arbuckle was railroaded because he was not only famous and rich, but yes, fat.

32 posted on 03/03/2018 7:30:45 PM PST by nopardons
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To: BwanaNdege

All of your comments are on point. I like them (especially the knitting)!


33 posted on 03/03/2018 7:51:37 PM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: nopardons

All the newspapers at that time referred to Fatty’s “gross” appearance which lent credibility to him being a satyr a la Nero. Early fat-shaming although they adored him when they went to the movies to see him. Any ideas of who killed Hot Toddy? My brother runs her fan club on Facebook, lol. Personally, I like her but don’t think she holds a patch to Marilyn.

I have a friend who runs to Warren William fan club and is writing a book about him! I met her on Facebook, she lives in Atlanta. You meet SOME smart people on Facebook (not so much here anymore).

To those who don’t know any of the actresses named, try Louise Brooks’ brilliant set of essays “Lulu in Hollywood.” She was an early feminist, beautiful beyond belief, and had a corrusive wit to take down everyone from DW Griffith to Humphrey Bogart. And all done with a stiletto not a huge pair of galumping boots like this idiot.


34 posted on 03/04/2018 4:14:08 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: BwanaNdege; governsleastgovernsbest; SunkenCiv; SJackson
Given the shipping time from the Asian sweatshops to the US blue state cities and universities, I wonder Just when DID those identical-and-suddenly-appearing "mass-manufactured" pinky p*ssy hats worn in so many cities did get ordered ?
35 posted on 03/04/2018 7:06:17 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Many stick characters go back the the plays of Ancient Greece and Rome, which then got "polished" by the Commedia Dll'arte, which then influence Moliere and the whole French Farce genre and also gave us the Punch&Judy shows. And it then reached down to influence many English and "modern" American comedy teams and movies...some of the stock characters in Comic operas from Mozart to Gilbert & Sullivan to the Marx brothers, Laurel & Hardy, Abbot & Costello, and Jackie Gleason & Art Carney/THE HONEYMOONERS.

It was only "LET'S GO AFTER FATTY", once the Rappe "scandal" came out and then it was just one gigantic pile-on.

Have you read FRAMEUP?

Re Brooks...I have & have read LULU IN HOLLYWOOD and LOUISE BROOKS, by Barry Paris. Also have read two other books about her, but don't own them and sadly, can't recall the titles right now.

After reading "HOT TODDY" and "A CAST OF KILLERS", the latter a book about once famous Hollywood murders, I'm going with the gangsters killed Themla.

Though I once knew Patsy Kelly, slightly, I was in my 20s and too timid to ask her what she thought about the death of her good friend and sometime acting partner.

Monroe? T.T. wasn't a patch on Harlow! ;^)

Please let me know when your friend's book about W.W, is published...as you know, I want that book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you know anyone, besides me, who is a big fan of Paul Lukas?

36 posted on 03/04/2018 12:35:10 PM PST by nopardons
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You won’t find a fan of Paul Lukus here outside of myself, probably. Although I could do with a surprise. For once.

My main interest in Fatty comes from trying to understand whether he is funny or not. I’ve come to the conclusion that he wasn’t - or at least, given the Keystone Studios, he wasn’t allowed to be. Obviously, Keaton knew the Studio was crushing his talent which is why he left.

There are a lot of books on Louise. I love the Paris bio which is superb and own several picture books about her. But we really need an excellent (good paper!) picture book about her. Which we won’t get since no one cares about these people anymore. Even Leonard Maltin closed up shop because he couldn’t sell his books.


37 posted on 03/04/2018 12:41:54 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
Too bad, because Lukas was a many dimensional actor, whose films are wonderful and most of them stand the test of time.

I never found Fatty funny and detest Chaplin, who stole a lot of the bits that he is famous for, from Stan Laurel and another Brit Music Hall comic. And those bits ( the dancing rolls, for one ) were "OLD" and hoary when Chaplin did them here!

Now Buster Keaton...there was a comedic genius!

True...re the last paragraph. :-(

Today's actors and actresses STINK, as do the movies AND nobody can do comedy anymore either.

38 posted on 03/04/2018 1:27:30 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Well, I disagree about Chaplin. He was a genius as was Keaton. They all stole from each other; some just stole better than others.


39 posted on 03/04/2018 3:46:32 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Robert A Cook PE
Given the shipping time from the Asian sweatshops to the US blue state cities and universities, I wonder Just when DID those identical-and-suddenly-appearing "mass-manufactured" pinky p*ssy hats worn in so many cities did get ordered ?

Given that this was a major assault on an elected President, air-freighting cases of hats was probably considered a justifiable expense for the DNC/Soros/MSM crowd.

40 posted on 03/04/2018 8:07:36 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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