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UFO ‘evidence’: Recordings reveal air traffic control’s confusion at strange craft over Oregon
foxnews.com ^ | Jamie Seidel

Posted on 02/19/2018 3:59:47 PM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: jmacusa
That's an old rationalization we've probably heard/read 100 times.

It doesn't move us any more the 100th time than it did the first one.

Some of the assumptions involved just do not apply.

Dr J Allen Hynek and Dr Jacques Vallee both essentially asserted--in somewhat different wording that the critters are evil spiritual entities that come from an evil spiritual DIMENSION--not distant galaxies.

Though the satanic globalist oligarchy is very dedicated to selling the idea that the critters come from distant galaxies.

There are even tales of humans being taken on exchange programs back to the critters 'home planets.' Not sure how that would work but If Disney can create all manner of simulations, I suspect simulations of great elaboration would NOT be too difficult for critters that can create craft capable of the wild things their craft can do.

Some of y'all's pontifications just don't impress me because Qx has had too many close friends and relatives work in such black projects. And, he's talked with too many additional folks who were major researchers or also employed in positions to know. When he was in China, he met with Japan's foremost expert on UFO's.

81 posted on 02/19/2018 9:04:18 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: UCANSEE2

Hey, where’s bigfoot?


82 posted on 02/19/2018 9:04:22 PM PST by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus. He says absolutely amazing things which few dare consider.)
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To: heterosupremacist

Thank you! Bless you!


83 posted on 02/19/2018 9:28:08 PM PST by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)
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To: Mark17

Interesting. I have always thought that would be an intense job.

Now that I remember, he showed a video taken of an object that was flying near a plane. Maybe that has been debunked, but the pilot seemed credible.

I’ve been in Revelation lately so it’s certainly clear that satanic deception beyond imagination is ahead.


84 posted on 02/19/2018 9:32:43 PM PST by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)
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To: JockoManning

Seems like I saw his name often, somehow I never picked up on the UFO thing. We all have our hobby horses. I beat ‘em till their dead then beat ‘em some more!


85 posted on 02/19/2018 9:34:46 PM PST by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)
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To: avenir

Qx has lots of relentlessly pummeled dead horses in his wake, too. He’s trying to reform himself in such regards on most things.


86 posted on 02/19/2018 11:19:06 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

There isn’t a shred of proof in anything you say. None. No technology that we know of according to our laws of physics exists to travel to another star system. Prove to me there is.


87 posted on 02/19/2018 11:53:09 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: allendale
I agree with you entirely. Apparently Jocko Manning’’ here considers those of us who know the facts as you have stated them are 100% wrong.
88 posted on 02/19/2018 11:55:05 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa; JockoManning

Jocko quoted: “...that the critters are evil spiritual entities that come from an evil spiritual DIMENSION...”. I believe that is their main gist - UFO’s (and abductions) DON’T come from other planets.

Of course, if one doesn’t believe in a spiritual realm, and that that realm is intertwined with our own dimension - the impossibility of “UFO’s” is still there. Other than explaining them away as top secret military flights, etc. Which I have no doubt many of them are.

I finally got to reading the posted article. One of the pilots said it was a white plane. So while “unidentified” - I’m not sure that this event ranks up there with other, more fantastic ones that have been related by pilots, police, etc.


89 posted on 02/20/2018 12:20:04 AM PST by 21twelve
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To: jmacusa
You are wrong. Greatly wrong.

However, I'm quite comfortable leaving you in your ignorance.

The evidence is abundant that the craft can do a lot of exotic stuff. The issue of rapid travel to distant star systems has been discussed at some length as solved by one or two means. I don't happen to believe that's what they do but the means are conceivable.

One of the most common cited is bending space/time as a sheet of paper forming a U.

In any case, Qx has studied the topic since 1962. His IQ is about 190. I'll continue to trust his assessments on the topic.

The evidence has been fairly conclusive for most fair-minded folks for several decades.

We no longer hope that those who WILL NOT see will be enlightened short of a UFO orb landing in their lap and castrating them.

90 posted on 02/20/2018 2:32:04 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: jmacusa

Few things seem to be 0% or 100% but close enough. Wholesale wrong, for sure.


91 posted on 02/20/2018 2:33:18 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: 21twelve
Plenty true.

It persistently seems rather pathetic that hyper-rationalists insist on pontificating about "proof" while denying plenty of evidence lying around almost in plain sight.

The stacks of evidence from highly trained military personnel is but one slice.

Then there's the organization dedicated to collecting trace landing evidence--including bits and pieces as well as impacts on the environment. THEY are nearly hyper-rationalists themselves. And they have a considerable pile of cases documenting the unique craft and their impacts on the environment as well as bits they've left behind.

And that doesn't even get into the implants that move away by mysterious means from a scalpel homing in on them to cut them out.

At this point, I'm comfortable enough leaving the hyper-rationalists in their ignorance. The looks on their faces when events finally force them to alter their cosmology considerably will be quite significant, I'd expect.

I wonder if the reptoids will eat them first. LOLOL Sigh.

92 posted on 02/20/2018 2:39:16 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Aireast 31, would you like to report a UFO?”


93 posted on 02/20/2018 2:50:22 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: allendale
"... unless Einstein and his General Theory of Relativity is very wrong, no physical entity can travel faster than the speed of light.

Not wrong but there is an exception. The Eisenstein theory assumes that the object is traveling in and through space time. However, if one is able to 'capture' a piece of local space time, separating it from the rest, the object can travel 'above' space time.

The object is no longer subject to space time limitations, and the crew of the object only experiences the effects they were subject to when their space time was captured - they are at rest in respect to the object, while the object itself skims above space time. It does so by angling downward which drags in along space time - I don't understand the physics here, but they are explained in the video below.

The faster the object goes, the faster it can go. To the outside observer the object seems to move at impossible speeds with impossible course changes. The outside observer would see the object seem to more at beyond light speed, but that limitation only applies to objects pushing through space time, not ones skimming above. The crew experiences none of the expected adverse effects, but arrives at Mars a few minutes after leaving Earth, or at Alpha Centuri a few hours later.

Keep in mind that because everyone says/or believes this is impossible, no one looks and so the whole of it remain secret, making secret classifications redundant; and that untold billions or trillions of dollars have been poured into the secret 'black world' for many decades, long enough for the 'black world' to have become a separate community.

Zero Point - Classified Anti Gravity Craft - UFO Full Documentary by James Allen R.I.P. (as described by Mark McCandlish USAF illustrator)
McCandlish is who he says he is; his credentials are real; his drawings are all by hand and of blueprint quality. Its just his story and the subject of his illustrations, along with the physics that people have trouble believing.

94 posted on 02/20/2018 4:21:50 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: RoosterRedux
Here's a much more in depth and detailed description along with the tapes of the incident - for the curious only.

You Need To Hear These FAA Tapes From That Oregon UFO Incident That Sent F-15s Scrambling

95 posted on 02/20/2018 4:24:11 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: JockoManning

I had been tracking a commercial aircraft for about 10 minutes prior to seeing this thing appear.by target return comparison you could have set two airliners on top of this thing.


96 posted on 02/20/2018 4:36:00 AM PST by m422001 (Rust the plow point and the libs will get it.)
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To: m422001
200-300 feet diameter? IIRC, 300 feet is a somewhat common size for the bigger ones. Thanks.

I gather that the super-rationalists telling you "That's impossible," doesn't alter your memory of what you saw 0.001%?

It's been said that someone with an experience need never feel at the mercy of someone with merely an opinion.

97 posted on 02/20/2018 4:41:46 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: PIF

Obviously, the speakers were merely talking in their sleep from some silly nightmare. Such could not possibly have happened in real life. /sarc


98 posted on 02/20/2018 4:43:18 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: avenir
That's my opinion also, particularly when you include the abduction accounts studied by Dr John Mack, Harvard professor of psychiatry, deceased.
99 posted on 02/20/2018 4:56:33 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: JockoManning

If you read way down in the comments section of the link I posted thee are active and retired controllers that explain much of the jargon used by the speakers and what the various radar symbols actually mean. However, with all the mil guys, pilots and controllers commenting there is no conclusive ID of the plane.


100 posted on 02/20/2018 5:03:04 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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