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2018 Detroit Auto Show: Achates, Aramco Launch 37-MPG Pickup Engine
Trucks.com ^ | 01/15/2018 | John O'Dell

Posted on 01/15/2018 4:49:20 AM PST by taildragger

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1 posted on 01/15/2018 4:49:20 AM PST by taildragger
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To: taildragger
Note, this is the compression ignition version running gasoline. Wrap your head around that one!
2 posted on 01/15/2018 4:51:42 AM PST by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song of Angry Men!")
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Apparently they are way beyond paper or vaporware here, production intent (IMHO) prototype in the dyno...


3 posted on 01/15/2018 4:54:11 AM PST by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song of Angry Men!")
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IF you are not familiar with the concept this is a Junkers ( aircraft ) type engine, i.e. two crankshafts with 2 pistons sharing a common bore and total elimination of the valve train. Externally scavenged ( source of air for the "intake" ) via a "Roots" type Supercharger / Blower.


4 posted on 01/15/2018 4:57:53 AM PST by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song of Angry Men!")
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To: taildragger; Red Badger

Red, Diesel engine ping list please, their are diesel versions in the works as well 1000hp Military version!


5 posted on 01/15/2018 4:59:22 AM PST by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song of Angry Men!")
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To: Red Badger

Ping.


6 posted on 01/15/2018 5:00:07 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Red Badger

Compression ignition ping.


7 posted on 01/15/2018 5:00:08 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: taildragger

I am extremely impressed with my 2014 Ram. I regularly get 21 mpg on the highway with this 400 HP V8. It’s the multi displacement I suppose.

I love the power when I need it. And not smoke and mirror high reving low torque tiny engine kind.


8 posted on 01/15/2018 5:02:58 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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“will deliver 37 mpg fuel economy without hurting truck’s working capabilities.”

Yeah, as long as it is ‘working’ to deliver no more than a box of feathers.


9 posted on 01/15/2018 5:04:00 AM PST by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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Have you researched the Junkers engines and what they powered? Large aircraft, DC-3 class, way ahead of their time, it takes torque to fly a prop plane that big. Roots Blowers = Low End Torque, which this engine uses for an air supply. I’d love to see a torque curve on this puppy, long, and flat as Kansas, but gobs of it, is my guess...


10 posted on 01/15/2018 5:10:27 AM PST by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song of Angry Men!")
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No, I don’t know anything about them.


11 posted on 01/15/2018 5:16:36 AM PST by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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To: taildragger

Opposed pistons sounds very negative.

I suppose they are opposed to everything along with each other.


12 posted on 01/15/2018 5:20:05 AM PST by Paladin2
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>>Red, Diesel engine ping list please, their are diesel versions in the works as well 1000hp Military version!

One of the submarines I served on had a diesel generator engine in this configuration. 5 cylinders and 10 pistons.


13 posted on 01/15/2018 5:20:08 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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>>Yeah, as long as it is ‘working’ to deliver no more than a box of feathers.

The article says 429 lb-ft of torque.


14 posted on 01/15/2018 5:22:53 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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"The article says 429 lb-ft of torque."

Years ago I read somewhere an engine guy of note said Torque is a way to gage how efficient the air pump is, since an ICE is an air pump. 270 hp maybe 300 lbs of torque, but 429, makes this in a class of it's own. I wonder if the lack of a valvetrain and all its' friction drag is adding to the torque. Also I believe this style of engine has greater thermal efficiency, given 2 pistons are using one cylinder, that heat is staying their and utilized, not each individual one needing to be cooled.

15 posted on 01/15/2018 5:31:54 AM PST by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song of Angry Men!")
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To: Beagle8U

I’m wondering the same. I have a 2012 F250 with the 360 hp V8 and I sometimes pull near 10 tons on a machinery trailer. It ain’t easy going up steep hills but it gets the job done.


16 posted on 01/15/2018 5:34:34 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: taildragger
Okay... thanks for the graphic. You really think this might make it to production vehicles like say, the F-150? In a couple of year, really?

I assume the manufacturers would acquire license to develop and build their own proprietary versions? Or maybe not?

17 posted on 01/15/2018 5:39:44 AM PST by OKSooner (Joan Rivers, RIP)
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It doesn’t much look like an Atkinson design to me, no valves. Wow, opposing pistons, timed to compliment each other in the combustion cycle and operating in a single cylinder. Now why didn’t I think of that?


18 posted on 01/15/2018 5:39:48 AM PST by iontheball
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“The article says 429 lb-ft of torque.”

Put that into layman’s terms. Will it pull a 3 bottom plow through cement?


19 posted on 01/15/2018 5:40:01 AM PST by Beagle8U (Wake up and smell the Covfef)
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Two stroke? Will it sound like an old motor boat, or lawn mower? I bet it has a unique loud sound that they wrestle with regarding noise. A boxer engine is also notorious for vibration.


20 posted on 01/15/2018 5:42:22 AM PST by WeWaWes (When I look in the mirror I see an elephant--a bad ass elephant)
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