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Trump thinks Scientology should lose its tax-exempt status
The Hill ^ | November 9, 2017 | John Bowden

Posted on 11/09/2017 8:20:52 PM PST by EdnaMode

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To: null and void

“but you asserted that the tech didn’t work”

you’re confusing me with some other poster - i made no such assertion.


121 posted on 11/10/2017 10:05:55 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: null and void
said, "Unless you just meant an insurrection that had the slightest chance of being successful"

That isn't even a logical statement. Any kind of organization aimed at destroying the country is unacceptable.

We're talking about the largest insurrection organization on the planet. Number in at over a billion people with many that are more then willing to die to carry it out.

122 posted on 11/10/2017 11:24:05 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: null and void

Who died and made them gods?

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I don’t know, and that’s the problem. Look what they did to conservative groups.
The IRS is the sole decision maker on who will get tax exemption, and there is really no guidelines on what constitutes a religion.


123 posted on 11/11/2017 6:06:55 AM PST by kara37
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To: catnipman

OH! My apologies!


124 posted on 11/11/2017 6:45:09 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

You’re talking about islam, I’m talking about Scientology.


125 posted on 11/11/2017 6:46:01 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: kara37
Exactly! Tax everyone the same, and that problem vanishes.

As do soooo many others.

126 posted on 11/11/2017 6:56:47 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: null and void

“OH! My apologies!”

no problemo ... just thought you might want to direct your post to the correct poster ...


127 posted on 11/11/2017 8:48:48 AM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: null and void

“You’re asserting that it’s always valid and infallible?”

No, I’m asserting that it can be valid, and that there are reliable witnesses in this case.


128 posted on 11/11/2017 8:53:18 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: catnipman

Germany used to have (maybe still do!) have Scientologdesignated as a terrorist organization.

It probably should be so here also - a domestic terrorist organization.

If there was ever an organization in need of being RICO’ed it’s Scientology.


129 posted on 11/11/2017 8:53:57 AM PST by Reily
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To: null and void
OK. Sorry misunderstood. I was off topic. I will contribute it to old age ha ha


There is no way Scientology or anyone that calls themselves a religion can't be a religion without showing that they are a direct violation of the constitution or a criminal organization.

I mean it's not going to hold up in court if they do pass something.

130 posted on 11/11/2017 10:33:45 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“I mean it’s not going to hold up in court if they do pass something.”

The laws against polygamy were explicitly aimed at Mormons, and the sole grounds were religious. Haven’t been struck down yet.


131 posted on 11/11/2017 10:42:22 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
That is one aspect of Mormons that the rest of civilization shouldn't have to agree with. It's not the whole religion removed from being a religion.

in order to do that you have to show something very wrong with the "organization."

Has there been a religion that was reclassified as a cult and forced to stop practicing other then the Davidians? (just looked up the Davidians someone named Charles Pace took over what Koresh left off. So they're still running)

132 posted on 11/11/2017 2:18:09 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“in order to do that you have to show something very wrong with the “organization.”

I think the fact that it was made up by someone who had no belief that it was true should be enough.

And we’re not talking about shutting them down; we’re talking about pulling their tax exemption.


133 posted on 11/11/2017 3:39:20 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
said, "someone who had no belief"
"belief" is extremely subjective. Very iffy in court.
134 posted on 11/11/2017 3:50:07 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“belief” is extremely subjective. Very iffy in court.”

There are people who heard him plan to invent a fake religion for the purpose of gaining access to females and money; and others who heard him admit that it’s all fake.

There’s no subjectivity here.


135 posted on 11/11/2017 3:59:13 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
You have a point.

I heard of one church where they give secular sermons one day a week and sort of religious sermons on another day - maybe so that they would qualify for tax exemption. Their main beliefs have nothing to do with religion, just with "social justice."

136 posted on 11/11/2017 4:04:59 PM PST by Dante3
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To: dsc
I'm not disagreeing with you. That it's corrupted from the start. Their followers today believe in UFO shit flying spacecraft that look like DC10's. Isn't that a "belief?"

It' nuts no matter how you look at it. it's still a "belief"

137 posted on 11/11/2017 4:20:49 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

“Isn’t that a “belief?”

On the part of the defrauded. The question is whether LRH believed any of this crap when he invented it. The clear and obvious answer to that is “no.”


138 posted on 11/11/2017 7:45:38 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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