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Posted on 09/25/2017 8:55:51 PM PDT by WhatNot

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To: oblomov

Impossible for the PTB to manipulate, although I’m sure they are trying.


41 posted on 09/26/2017 2:59:08 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: WhatNot
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Its definitely not “jewish mysticism,” its the plain word of Yehova.

You're obviously not a scripture guy.

Matthew 24:1-2 were fulfilled in 68 AD.

Verses 12 and 13 are the ones you should be concerned with:

[12] And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
[13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Iniquity is the willful disobedience of Torah.

Enduring to the end is the willful keeping of Torah until you either die or The Day of Trumpets arrives.

Being “saved” is having your Earthly body replaced by one that can exist in the realm of Yehova. (see John chapter 3, i.e. being “born again.”) This is the narrow path.
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42 posted on 09/26/2017 3:53:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: hillarys cankles; arrogantsob

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“Mystery Babylon” can manipulate anything they wish; they rule this world, and will until we return with Yeshua to crush them. (when the “kingdoms of men” become “The kingdoms of Yehova.”)
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43 posted on 09/26/2017 3:57:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Actually, Matthew 24:1-2 has only been partially fulfilled. When you read the passage correctly you will notice that the disciples came to show Jesus the "buildings of the temple" (plural) not building of the temple (singular).

Buildings of the temple would have included the entire temple complex, when Rome destroyed the Second Temple in 70 AD only one outer wall remained standing. Known today as "The western or wailing wall" which by common sense does not fulfil the prophecy of:

"See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down"

44 posted on 09/26/2017 6:25:26 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Its a date that can only be known when the moon appears in the sky at dusk on the Temple Mount.

Unless you can provide scripture, this statement is pure Jewish mysticism.

45 posted on 09/26/2017 6:52:53 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: WhatNot

Every paper contract has a buyer and a seller. Some one is going to win and someone is going to lose.


46 posted on 09/26/2017 9:01:30 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: WhatNot

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It is a description of how every biblical month begins.

If you’re totally ignorant of even the bsics, just admit it and go home!

You know ansolutely nothing of scripture.
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47 posted on 09/26/2017 9:35:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: WhatNot

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Total BS!

You’re reaching into the darkness.

The temple was one building with a large porch.
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48 posted on 09/26/2017 9:38:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
You know ansolutely nothing of scripture.

I know enough not to give heed to the Jewish mystics and their wacky fables.

Titus 1:14
Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

49 posted on 09/26/2017 10:55:08 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: editor-surveyor

LOL. even if you want to disregard God’s Word and change what is clearly stated, (which is extremely common these days) you still have the problem of a wall standing that Jesus says will one day be laid waste and that hasn’t happened yet.


50 posted on 09/26/2017 11:24:43 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: WhatNot

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Paul was speaking of the Takanot and Ma’assim of the Pharisees in his letter to Titus, which have absolutely nothing to do with Yehova’s plan for his sheep that he delivered at Sinai at the first Shavuot, 1000 years before Judaism was invented by the Pharisees.

I realize that you understand none of this, because you are likely in the grip of the man made nonsense of Dispensationalism, which denies almost all of the Word of Yehova.

Matthew 7:21-23 is appropriate for your sub-milk level of Biblical understanding, as it makes it clear that it is “Christians” to whom he is issuing the warning. (Yeshua’s sheep didn’t call themselves christians, they were the Notzerim (followers of the Netzer from the root of Jesse)

Time is short and you are in need of much study. Our gathering is due in about 7 years, and you are looking for events that can’t happen until we are gathered (the ‘Bowl’ judgments, 10 days of the wrath of Yehova)
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51 posted on 09/27/2017 8:26:28 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
I realize that you understand none of this

Yeah, perhaps I need the same level of understanding as those Jewish Scholars and Scribes in the time of Jesus.

You know, the Torah educated experts, those most learned of all things Jewish who looked God Almighty right in the face and said:

"CRUCIFY HIM, CRUCIFY HIM"

If that's the level of understanding you have and the level of understanding of those you esteem.

Thanks but no thanks!

52 posted on 09/27/2017 10:13:17 AM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: WhatNot

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>> “perhaps I need the same level of understanding as those Jewish Scholars and Scribes in the time of Jesus.” <<

Actually, that may be more than you have, sadly.

Every true believer in Yeshua needs to be “Torah educated.”

The Pharisees are Torah destroyers, believing that they have the power to change Torah. According to Moses, nobody has the power to change anything.

Torah written on your heart is the requirement for salvation. Without that you are without hope.

You need to put your antisemitism, or whatever it is, away, and study what Yehova’s word really says. The soundbites that you learned in Dispy sunday school are nowhere to be found in the word. Following them is what the apostles called “iniquity.” That is a disrespector of Yehova’s loving Torah, the handbook of salvation for man.

Torah is the “level ofunderstanding” of John, Peter, James, and Paul. Their epistles make it plain to the unconfused reader that it is an absolute requirement for the wedding feast.
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If you like your sound bites more than you like eternal life, you’re in grave danger of losing out on it. The two are incompatible.


53 posted on 09/27/2017 11:24:42 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Actually, that may be more than you have, sadly.

And for that I praise the Lord Jesus Christ everyday!

54 posted on 09/27/2017 11:33:38 AM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: WhatNot

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You’re in for the rudest of awakenings, sooner than you’re barganing for.

Matthew 7:21-23 was written especially for you.
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55 posted on 09/27/2017 11:40:54 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Believe me I was rudely awakened many many many years ago. That’s why Christ is my Saviour. I suggest you turn your life over to Him too.


56 posted on 09/27/2017 11:43:42 AM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: WhatNot

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You have no savior if what you posted to this thread is real.

Yeshua demands his Father’s righteousness for salvation.

Rejecting that is rejecting him.
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57 posted on 09/27/2017 11:53:18 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Actually I have the Jesus Christ of God's preserved Word and His Holy Spirit. The one you promote is the "another Jesus" Paul warned everyone about. The Jesus, the spirit and the gospel you preach is from the pit.

2 Corinthians 11:4
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

58 posted on 09/27/2017 12:10:45 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: WhatNot

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Sorry, but no, the “Jesus” you create is the false savior.

The attributes you cling to are nowhere to be found in the word of Yehova.

The one I follow is the one that revealed himself in the four Gospels. He is the one with the narrow path that few will find; the path declared at the first Shavuot at Mt Sinai, the one that uttered the words recorded in the gospels.

You follow a promotor of iniquity, and boldly brag about it. You espouse iniquity openly. You reject the savior of the apostles and call him “jewish mysticism” (not even having any idea what that may be)

The words of the Gospels that I posted are the ones you reject. They are plain words uttered by Yeshua to assure the salvation of his sheep.

You cling to fairy farts of deliberate twisting of the apostles words. You have lots of company as you stroll the broad path that leads to destruction.

Sweet words of man made theology.

Truth is consistant across all of scripture; fairy farts require splitting the word into two unrelated fantasies.
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59 posted on 09/27/2017 3:03:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Only in Jesus Christ is salvation found. Hopefully, you and your anti-christ cult won't still be shouting, "Give us Barabbas" when the man of sin makes his appearance, but I have my doubts. Your conscience may have already been seared with a hot iron.

But only God knows for sure.

See Ya! Wouldn't Wanna Be Ya!

60 posted on 09/27/2017 3:35:02 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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