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My Proposal for Near Medicare-scope, Lower Cost Coverage Policies for Long-Term Uninsured Americans
08/18/2017 | Brian Griffin

Posted on 08/18/2017 11:29:21 AM PDT by Brian Griffin

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To: Nifster

“Medicare is the VA on steroids”

You need to read:

“Americans With Government Health Plans Most Satisfied”
http://www.gallup.com/poll/186527/americans-government-health-plans-satisfied.aspx


41 posted on 08/19/2017 10:15:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Americans with EBT cards most satisfied with frozen pizza; Americans who pay for their own pizza call it cardboard


42 posted on 08/19/2017 10:24:09 AM PDT by piasa
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As I said, I have yet to use it, or my Tricare secondary insurance-don’t plan to unless I sustain a serious injury at work or some such-and since I’m the one responsible to the contractor I work for-overseeing jobsite safety is part of what I do-it wouldn’t be wise for me to do something stupid myself...

Not only is it done by people with money, but it is also often hidden in the coding, so that the $$$ for a major and more expensive procedure is paid out for what actually was a minor and much less costly one-it nearly happened to my guy a few months ago-on the copy of the bill he got, somehow a backyard mishap-getting a stepped-on piece of railroad tie removed and foot stitched had morphed into a surgery complete with another consulting physician-to the tune of $7500. He said this is too weird, and showed it to me.

I told him call your secondary insurer and give them the code numbers on all line items-he did, the insurer went apes***, thanked him and filed a complaint-you see that happen all the time with workers comp billing, too. If I were king, I’d not only fine the fraudsters, I’d have them en la carcel, tambien...


43 posted on 08/19/2017 11:16:20 AM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Brian Griffin

I would also love to have cafeteria plan Medicare, too-damn near everyone I know never or barely uses it-healthy lifestyle and working hard is more common in rural areas-most of us pay cash, don’t get drugs and would likely only use catastrophic coverage-so we should be able to buy just that.


44 posted on 08/19/2017 11:23:51 AM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: piasa

You never stop paying for Medicare-that is what pisses many of us off-I payed for it all the time I worked for someone else, and I still do working for myself-whether you work or not, it is deducted from your SS check-or in my case, my SS benefits as a widow. I’d be more than willing to pay more for private, cafeteria insurance coverage that I-NOT the government-choose...


45 posted on 08/19/2017 11:32:48 AM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Brian Griffin

You don’t get it

Medical care should not be the preview of the government. Let the free market deal with it

Single payer is a disaster. You are dealing with insurance not health care

You have the same mind set as McShamey


46 posted on 08/19/2017 12:52:43 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Brian Griffin

The government should get out of health care.


47 posted on 08/19/2017 12:54:31 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Brian Griffin

No you need to quit pushing single payer

Why the heck are you on FR?

Move to Canada if you wNt single payer


48 posted on 08/19/2017 12:55:41 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Are you saying because children eat then they owe you SS and Medicare? You actually believe you are owed it due to some form af welfare swap Agreement?


49 posted on 08/19/2017 4:13:27 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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I swear, this guy must be either a comedian, or the official apprentice to Jonathan Gruber...


50 posted on 08/19/2017 8:57:15 PM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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To: publius911

Do you have a copy of the Gruber fold-out?


51 posted on 08/19/2017 8:59:23 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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+1. I don’t understand his posts. Read post 49 and tell me what you interpret it to imply.

If my greed is focused on another group at their detriment then it is immoral.

I just can’t see another side to it.


52 posted on 08/19/2017 9:42:28 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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The reason ordinary patients pay so much is to make up for the losses on Medicare patients.

There are more loses on "Medicare" patients than on Medicaid patients?
Or dazzled and blinded by all the BS, did you actually intend to say "Medicaid???"

I double down on my guess that you are a Jonathan Gruber Wannabe....

53 posted on 08/19/2017 9:45:26 PM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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To: eyedigress
Do you have a copy of the Gruber fold-out?

I guess I better start re-reading this entire thread from scratch tomorrow.

If there was a Gruber fold-out mentioned anywhere I must have missed it...

54 posted on 08/19/2017 10:28:43 PM PDT by publius911 (Less Tweets More Golf! it works!!!)
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To: publius911

There was no mention. I was curious if anybody had it.

I’m still waiting for my 2500 in savings and wondering why my doc is gone.


55 posted on 08/19/2017 10:39:09 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: wgmalabama

49 is in response to his post at 40

His posts only make sense if he was at DU

He seems to think that if we don’t go single payer no one will be able to figure out their own health care.

His analogies are pointless


56 posted on 08/20/2017 12:52:02 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: publius911

Your first guess is at least correct.....

How am I a Gruber wanna be? I hate govt involvement in health care. The fraud of both Medicaid and Medicare is hurting true health care


57 posted on 08/20/2017 12:55:19 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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