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Trump plans week-long focus on infrastructure, starting with privatizing air traffic control
Washington Post ^ | June 3, 2017 at 2:15 PM | John Wagner

Posted on 06/03/2017 10:10:15 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Reno89519
The only advantage would be the ability to fire crappy controllers. There are a couple particularly bad ones in my area. The really poor ones end up at my tower, but there are some with approach as well. The bad news is I'm not in the hinterlands, I fly in the D.C. area.

The downside to privatization would be a natural push for fewer controllers and busier frequencies. Makes a mess and isn't safe.

21 posted on 06/04/2017 6:38:27 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: trebb

Because there is a place for non profit motive control in matters of nationwide communication and travel/safety.


22 posted on 06/04/2017 6:39:09 AM PDT by amihow (.size)
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To: ConservativeMind

Profit not the issue. Safety, uniformity and efficiency is the issue best served up and protected by force of law Forest.


23 posted on 06/04/2017 6:45:15 AM PDT by amihow (.size)
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To: ConservativeMind

Conservative mind should know better than to focus on just the free market. Please study up.


24 posted on 06/04/2017 6:48:01 AM PDT by amihow (.size)
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To: amihow

That’s why we have contracts that are designed to drive the contractors instead of letting them drive us.


25 posted on 06/04/2017 6:49:36 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Reno89519

Perhaps you haven’t read how the ranks of controllers have been filled with unqualified “diversity” employees?


26 posted on 06/04/2017 6:56:09 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: trebb

Contracts have to be enforced by cumbersome civil suits. There is, in True Conservatism à small place for government control enforced by legal fines or sanctions set by law.


27 posted on 06/04/2017 7:10:37 AM PDT by amihow (.size)
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To: Olog-hai

Very much disagree with privatizing ATC. bad idea. That creates another monopoly opportunity.


28 posted on 06/04/2017 7:21:54 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: amihow

In total agreement with you. Can’t be ALL Huber conservative and certainly not liberal. Gotta use some common sense.


29 posted on 06/04/2017 7:26:01 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: amihow

Some people think you can only be an idiot if you disagree with them.

Im waiting for someone to explain how Canada maintains such a high ATC standard and would handle our traffic load and who pays for ATC in Canada.


30 posted on 06/04/2017 7:36:34 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: amihow

I remember those old days. I think you’re looking at the past through rose colors glasses.


31 posted on 06/04/2017 7:37:24 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Sequoyah101

Tautology of sorts. It’s already a monopoly.

I’ve yet to see a cogent argument for it remaining in the public sector, and what good the centralization imparts to it.


32 posted on 06/04/2017 7:38:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: amihow

Furthermore, YOU should do some reading. The airlines were deregulated by an act of Congress signed by Jimmy Carter in 1978, the the breakup of the Bell system, while finalized in 1982, began with an antitrust lawsuit filed in 1974.


33 posted on 06/04/2017 7:44:38 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: G Larry

Have you ever been to a government office? It’s full of people who probably couldn’t get a job in the private sector.


34 posted on 06/04/2017 8:29:49 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: Olog-hai

Add the TSA to that list.


35 posted on 06/04/2017 8:51:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Reagan broke up airlines unions and fed regs also.


36 posted on 06/04/2017 9:22:22 AM PDT by amihow (.size)
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To: Reno89519

Why not privatize the air traffic control? Canada has done it and they are certainly more “socialist” than the U.S.

Privatizing it will get the Congressional politics and federal budget out of it. The governance structure of it can give voting voice to all the various stakeholders, large and small, and include a bit of U.S. federal representation on its board, even leaving an FAA that approves regulations but no longer operates the air traffic control system.

Its funding would come primarily from already collected federal fees in the aviation field, and fees the privatized system would charge stakeholders based on their load-demand on the air traffic control network. With the stakeholders having a voice in the governance of the privatized system (voice votes on its board of directors) they would participate in the network design & requirements of its operations, the plans for changes to that system and the fees they’d each pay. The politicians would be out of it.


37 posted on 06/04/2017 10:11:37 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: amihow

Which airline unions. United? TWA?


38 posted on 06/04/2017 12:24:55 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Do not remember for sure. Or are you trolling me?

The subject of the conversation should be on the advisability of privatizing essential services like the air traffic controllers.


39 posted on 06/04/2017 3:11:52 PM PDT by amihow (.size)
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To: amihow

It was the traffic controllers union, PATCO. Not any airline union. I’m not trolling but rather showing how you don’t know what you are talking about.


40 posted on 06/04/2017 3:22:26 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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