Posted on 05/21/2017 9:37:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Having children is the most instinctive act possible.
You can choose not to have children and still be happy, but the easiest way to achieve satisfaction and contentment is to follow/satisfy your instincts.
Any society that encourages people to behave in non-instinctive ways will be filled with unhappy people.
Urbanization as well as development correlates with reduced fertility. Consider the state of Mexico, the country’s most populous political subdivision, with more than 14 million inhabitants. This state encompasses many of the poorer parts of Greater Mexico City, and thus has a per capita level of economic output substantially lower the national average ($8,900 for the country of Mexico vs. $6,200 for the state of Mexico, in nominal GDP). Yet the state’s birthrate is well below the national average, having been under the replacement level even in 2000
Mexico's birth rate, once among the world's highest, is in free-fall. In the 1960s Mexican mothers had nearly seven children each (whereas women in India then had fewer than six). The average now is just over two—almost the same as in the United States. The UN reckons that from 2040 the birth rate in Mexico will be the lower of the two.
>Mexico’s birth rate, once among the world’s highest, is in free-fall. In the 1960s Mexican mothers had nearly seven children each (whereas women in India then had fewer than six). The average now is just over two—almost the same as in the United States. The UN reckons that from 2040 the birth rate in Mexico will be the lower of the two.
US birthrate is quite a bit below 2. It’s being propped by immigrants.
Mexico gives out free conception to all Mexican women and it’s pretty effective in the cities but ineffective in the countryside. The primary difference between the 2 areas is how liberated women the women are in the cities and how liberated they are in the countryside.
This explains it all, really.
A population decline is not the end of the world. The Black Death is estimated to have killed 30–60% of Europe's total population and it survived. This situation is no where near as devastating as that.
Overall the peasants we import are net users of public monies and not revenue generators.
You’re right; I go through life “depressed and fearful”, but I still have children.
I don’t think parenthood is for everyone, but the effects of refusing to breed can’t be ignored. The whole West is committing demographic suicide.
Conquered peoples undergo demographic collapse.
No such thing. Laughable.
The real question is not, “What do people want to do?” But “Why do people want what they want?”
After WWII, women were sold on having a career as a means of fulfillment, rather than having a family. This was done for political purposes, as the nuclear family is a direct threat to the leviathan, socialist state whose purpose is to remake humanity. Remaking humanity requires lots of indoctrination starting very early and eliminating other influences, such as family.
So you convince mama that being mama is hardship and oppression and what she really needs is a career. ( Because those of us who work know how fulfilling and pleasant work is. Yes, this is sarcasm.) So rather than raise her offspring mama dumps them in a daycare and goes off to the glories and successes of a job (more sarcasm here). Having one or two kids just makes it all more manageable. And it makes sense since kids are no longer the point of the exercise, but an accessory to a life concerned with other things.
“Mom” and “dad” have lots more income, can have lots more stuff, can work long hours and achieve titles and positions that demand even longer hours.
Meanwhile the kids grow up indoctrinated by strangers and go to political rallies (riots), smash windows and set cars on fire while protesting any office holder who does not advance the socialist agenda. The one or two kids become empty shells incapable of serious thought or philosophy, just rabid automatons spouting party propaganda.
When that happens, you don’t have to wait for population numbers to dwindle to collapse civilization. It is already happening.
I think those are both real questions.
However, as a generalization, people will go to tremendous efforts to achieve what they truly want. If a person says he wants to do something - visit his parents, for example - but does not take any steps toward that end - schedule a visit, buy a plane ticket - one can reasonably conclude that he does not, in fact, really want to visit his parents.
Obviously, reproduction is not something that is entirely under the control of any individual or couple. However, in most situations, as the author observed, it's not an issue of "can't" but one of "choose other options."
San Francisco:
Dogs abound, faggots o’plenty:
NO KIDS.
And it is worth noting the problem is not one couple choosing not to reproduce, it is society at a whole.
We are destroying those who made this nation and importing new citizens with none of the characteristics that made this nation what it is.
The great irony is that equality for women will be one of the first things to be lost.
Reading “Judgment Day” by Al Feldstein and Joe Orlando, it challenged racism of the 1940s. What stood out to me was the line “you have responsibility to procreation, good” that the human observer stated. That view is alien to the middle and upper classes in the West, because they’ve been told it is evil to have children or more than one per environmentalism.
And the more intelligent are scared out of having children by the deliberately inflated “cost of raising children”. You know it is fake when the poor can raise two children and the middle class delays having one. Or from my own experience raising two humans.
It is, but it's also one free, individual choice at a time. Many flakes make an avalanche, so to speak.
“You know it is fake when the poor can raise two children and the middle class delays having one. Or from my own experience raising two humans.”
There is a huge self imposed life style cost. Many couples have two salaries even though the second salary barely covers daycare for 1 or 2 kids. Those people think they can’t afford more. Whereas a stay at home mom could take care of 4 or 5 for less cost. But once they design their lives to require 2 salaries to maintain... Other options seem to disappear (in their minds).
2016 List by the World Bank
Rank Country Fertility rate
in 2016
(births/woman)
200 South Korea 1.2
199 Portugal 1.2
198 Hong Kong (China) 1.2
197 Macau (China) 1.2
196 Singapore 1.3
195 Moldova 1.3
194 Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.3
193 Spain 1.3
192 Poland 1.3
191 Greece 1.3
190 Slovak Republic 1.3
189 Hungary 1.4
188 Malta 1.4
187 Italy 1.4
186 Germany 1.4
185 Romania 1.4
184 Japan 1.4
183 Serbia 1.4
182 Mauritius 1.4
181 Austria 1.4
180 Cyprus 1.4
179 Liechtenstein 1.4
178 Croatia 1.5
177 Czech Republic 1.5
176 Channel Islands ( Guernsey (UK) and Jersey) (UK) 1.5
175 Puerto Rico (US) 1.5
174 Bulgaria 1.5
173 Ukraine 1.5
172 Thailand 1.5
171 Estonia 1.5
170 Switzerland 1.5
169 Latvia 1.7
168 Macedonia 1.5
167 Armenia 1.5
166 Luxembourg 1.6
165 Slovenia 1.6
164 China 1.6
163 Lithuania 1.6
162 Canada 1.6
161 Cuba 1.6
160 Belarus 1.6
159 Bermuda (UK) 1.6
158 Aruba (Netherlands) 1.7
157 Denmark 1.7
156 Netherlands 1.7
155 Montenegro 1.7
154 Russia 1.7
153 Iran 1.7
152 Lebanon 1.7
151 Belgium 1.8
150 Finland 1.8
149 United States Virgin Islands (US) 1.8
148 Chile 1.8
147 Trinidad and Tobago 1.8
146 Norway 1.8
145 United Arab Emirates 1.8
144 Albania 1.8
143 Brazil 1.8
142 Barbados 1.8
141 Saint Martin (France) 1.8
140 Georgia 1.8
139 Costa Rica 1.8
138 United Kingdom 1.8
137 Australia 1.9
136 United States 1.9
135 Bahamas, The 1.9
134 Brunei 1.9
133 Sweden 1.9
132 St. Lucia 1.9
131 Colombia 1.9
130 New Zealand 2.0
129 Iceland 1.9
128 El Salvador 1.9
127 Malaysia 1.9
126 Ireland 2.0
125 Vietnam 2.0
124 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 2.0
123 North Korea 2.0
122 France 2.0
121 Azerbaijan 2.0
120 Curaçao (Netherlands) 2.0
119 Uruguay 2.0
118 Qatar 2.0
117 Bhutan 2.0
116 Greenland (Denmark) 2.0
115 French Polynesia (France) 2.0
114 Jamaica 2.0
113 Bahrain 2.1
112 Turkey 2.1
111 Antigua and Barbuda 2.1
110 Sri Lanka 2.1
109 Kosovo 2.1
108 Kuwait 2.1
107 Maldives 2.1
106 Grenada 2.1
105 Bangladesh 2.2
104 Tunisia 2.2
103 Uzbekistan 2.2
102 Myanmar (Burma) 2.2
101 Nepal 2.2
100 New Caledonia (France) 2.2
99 Mexico 2.2
98 Nicaragua 2.3
97 Seychelles 2.3
96 Turkmenistan 2.3
95 Cabo Verde 2.3
94 Argentina 2.3
93 Suriname 2.4
92 South Africa 2.4
91 Venezuela 2.4
90 Honduras 2.4
89 Guam (US) 2.4
88 India 2.4
87 Panama 2.4
86 Peru 2.5
85 Indonesia 2.5
84 Libya 2.5
83 Dominican Republic 2.5
82 Morocco 2.5
81 Paraguay 2.5
80 Ecuador 2.5
79 Guyana 2.6
78 Fiji 2.6
77 Belize 2.6
76 Faroe Islands (Denmark) 2.6
75 Cambodia 2.6
74 Mongolia 2.7
73 Kazakhstan 2.7
72 Saudi Arabia 2.8
71 Oman 2.8
70 Botswana 2.8
69 Algeria 2.9
68 Syria 3.0
67 Bolivia 3.0
66 Laos 3.0
65 Philippines 3.0
64 Haiti 3.0
63 Israel 3.1
62 Lesotho 3.2
61 Djibouti 3.2
60 Kyrgyzstan 3.2
59 Guatemala 3.2
58 Federated States of Micronesia 3.2
57 Swaziland 3.3
56 Egypt 3.3
55 Vanuatu 3.3
54 Jordan 3.4
53 Tajikistan 3.5
52 Namibia 3.5
51 Pakistan 3.6
50 Tonga 3.7
49 Kiribati 3.7
48 Papua New Guinea 3.8
47 Rwanda 3.9
46 Gabon 3.9
45 Zimbabwe 3.9
44 Solomon Islands 4.0
43 Samoa 4.1
42 Yemen 4.2
41 Ghana 4.2
40 Palestinian territories (Gaza Strip and West Bank) 4.2
39 Eritrea 4.3
38 Central African Republic 4.3
37 Kenya 4.3
36 Sudan 4.4
35 Ethiopia 4.4
34 Madagascar 4.4
33 Comoros 4.5
32 Iraq 4.6
31 Sao Tome and Principe 4.6
30 Togo 4.6
29 Mauritania 4.6
28 Sierra Leone 4.6
27 Cameroon 4.7
26 Liberia 4.7
25 Benin 4.8
24 Guinea-Bissau 4.8
23 Equatorial Guinea 4.8
22 Afghanistan 4.8
22 Western Sahara -
21 Republic of the Congo 4.9
21 Vatican City -
20 Cote d’Ivoire 5.0
20 Tuvalu -
19 Guinea 5.0
19 Turks and Caicos Islands -
18 South Sudan 5.0
18 St. Kitts and Nevis -
17 Senegal 5.1
17 Sint Maarten (Dutch part) -
16 San Marino -
16 Timor-Leste 5.1
15 Malawi 5.1
15 Palau -
14 Northern Mariana Islands (US) -
14 Tanzania 5.1
13 Central Europe and the Baltics 1.4
13 Nauru -
13 Zambia 5.4
12 Europe and Central Asia 1.7
12 Monaco -
12 Mozambique 5.4
11 Burkina Faso 5.5
11 East Asia and Pacific 1.8
11 Mayotte (France) -
10 Marshall Islands -
10 Nigeria 5.7
10 North America 1.8
9 Caribbean small states 2.1
9 Gambia, The 5.7
9 Isle of Man (UK) -
8 Guadeloupe (France) -
8 Latin America and Caribbean 2.1
8 Uganda 5.8
7 Burundi 5.9
7 Gibraltar (UK) -
7 South Asia 2.6
6 DR Congo 6.0
6 French Guiana (France) -
6 High income countries 1.7
6 Middle East and North Africa 2.8
5 Angola 6.1
5 Dominica -
5 Small states 3.0
5 Upper middle income countries 1.8
4 Cayman Islands (UK) -
4 Chad 6.2
4 Middle income countries 2.4
4 Other small states 3.2
3 British Virgin Islands (UK) -
3 Low and middle income countries 2.6
3 Mali 6.2
3 Pacific Island small states 3.3
2 Andorra -
2 Arab world 3.4
2 European Union 1.5
2 Least Developed Countries: UN classification 4.2
2 Lower middle income countries 2.8
2 Somalia 6.5
1 American Samoa (US) -
1 Eurozone 1.5
1 Fragile and conflict affected situations 4.4
1 Heavily indebted poor countries 5.0
1 Low income countries 4.8
1 Niger 7.6
1 OECD members 1.7
1 Sub-Saharan Africa 5.0
I had always heard that things like war and poverty and natural disasters make population rates soar.
It seems that the way to depress population growth is to make people ridiculously prosperous. Then they become selfish, entitlement minded individuals who won’t have kids because of the inconvenience and interference with their selfish, self- centered, self-indulgent lifestyles.
Tremendous Thanks for posting this and all you do for our Free Republic.
These demographic numbers reveal our future world and we’re in for difficult change..
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