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Gearing up for World War Three: Nato tanks put on massive show of strength in Germany
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 13 May 2017 | Rebecca Taylor For Mailonline

Posted on 05/13/2017 4:44:25 PM PDT by Chode

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To: DuncanWaring
It’s my recollection/understanding that the tank was dropped “unoccupied”.

The Sheridan was very new in 1967, and at the time it wasn't known what was possible, and what was a really, really bad idea. We knew the Russians could drop their then-new BMDs with the crews inside [they used corrugated cardboard for interior padding, among other novelties; I don't know if that was official Russian VDV science at work or some NCO hedging his bets, but it worked better than nothing.] In 1975 the Russians came up with improved [multiple; see pic below] parachutes, a retro-rocket system attached to the crushable landing pallet and limited the crew inside to two, the driver and gunner. I understand that now the other crewmen have radio trackers to find a transponder for their individual vehicle, even in the dark or rain. And we went to LAPES.

The BMD was only 7.5 tons versus the M551s 15-tons plus. LAPES was a LOT better way to go with the Sheridan.


41 posted on 05/23/2017 11:48:20 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: CondorFlight
Italy had about 36 actual tanks ready about a year ago; Germany and France about 400 combined.

As of March 2015, Germany was operating about 250 Leopard tanks, mostly Leo 2A6s. The number is expected to increase to around 350 vehicles by 2020, depending on the success of the Rheinmetall 140 mm smoothbore cannon meant for the next-generation Leopard 2-140, which may or may not be fitted with an automatic loader, and which may or may not be built either as new vehicles or as a rebuild program for existing Leo 2 A6, A6M and A7 tanks- or some of both, or, unlikely, all of the above.

42 posted on 05/23/2017 11:58:14 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: vooch
“...After trying their best during the day to outperform their competitors, each night they exchanged professional knowledge,...”

in 1 liter mugs

Yours, maybe. My old panzerschutze krug holds every bit of 3 liters, plus a bit. Those Limey Centurion and Chieftain gunners from the British Army of the Rhine with their little one-pint glasses were seriously outgunned.


43 posted on 05/23/2017 12:04:02 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: Delta 21; snippy_about_it
I have the graphic but I lost the Treadhead ping list.

Snippy_about_it was the Treadhead List keeper, last I recall.

44 posted on 05/23/2017 12:06:27 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: archy

I heard that the Soviets tried the spam-in-a-can method but had dropped/pun it after too many mishaps. I didn’t know they Russians had resurrected it. They used to use braking rockets on the pallets, don’t know if that involved crewed vehicles.

Me, I don’t fly well with a window seat; no way anybody is sealing me inside an AFV.


45 posted on 05/23/2017 12:14:20 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Government should be done to cattle and not human beings." - John Milius)
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To: archy

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46 posted on 05/23/2017 12:28:10 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: Chode

Like the air craft carrier, armored vehicles and tanks are obsolete. /sarcasm


47 posted on 05/23/2017 12:31:10 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: PLMerite
Me, I don’t fly well with a window seat; no way anybody is sealing me inside an AFV.

The idea of night drops bothered me a good bit. I did not care for the idea of possibly coming down in a lake. Or a pond. Or a swamp or bog. Or an ocean....

After 388 jumps, my Airborne days are over. I would have liked to have quit with an even 400, but then I'd have said *Oh, petunias!* and gone for 500 even....

48 posted on 05/23/2017 12:44:31 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: snippy_about_it; Delta 21; Darkshear
Hi . The Ping list remains for everyone as needed on my home page/profile. Not updated in ages.

Thank you very much, snips! Strike Swiftly! Target, cease fire!

49 posted on 05/23/2017 12:46:54 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: archy

I’ve only got two jumps but that’s enough for me.


50 posted on 05/23/2017 12:49:56 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Government should be done to cattle and not human beings." - John Milius)
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To: Lysandru

“Given that the German Army is only allowed to work 41 hours per week because the nut-job Defense Minister is applying EU labor laws to the Bundeswehr, I would not get too excited about the proficiency of the modern Panzerwaffe. “

I just had the mind image of a German tank company engaged in a firefight with the Russians. 41 hours hits and they all abandon their tanks for home.


51 posted on 05/23/2017 1:01:37 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Deportation mayhem is just birthing pains for a new America.)
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To: PLMerite
I’ve only got two jumps but that’s enough for me.

I was not as smart when I had two jumps in as you were.

52 posted on 05/23/2017 1:01:44 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: central_va
some here swear that as gospel
53 posted on 05/23/2017 3:54:19 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: archy

Love you guys!


54 posted on 05/23/2017 4:44:15 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: archy

panzerschutze !

good on you


55 posted on 05/24/2017 4:13:22 PM PDT by vooch (America First)
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