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FDR Adviser: Using corn as ethanol fuel is wasteful
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Posted on 03/03/2017 1:54:47 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica

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To: RipSawyer
What is really funny is that when you travel around Iowa and Nebraska there is an ubiquitous chain of "gas and go" convenience stores called Casey's General Stores which sell ethanol-free gasoline—100% pure gasoline.

These stores are everywhere in the region, and almost all of them sell real gasoline. The humor is that these are ethanol states. It reminds one of the old saw "rules for thee, but not for me."

I congratulate the Casey's chain for offering their customers the choice.

21 posted on 03/03/2017 5:55:39 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: RockyTx
We have here in the US all the freaking oil and natty gas we'll need for generations, and coal on top of that.

We do NOT need to subsidize crops to make fuel.

22 posted on 03/03/2017 5:58:44 PM PST by onona (Keeping the faith will be our new directive for the republic !)
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To: onona

what you write might be partly true.

but just producing some more in the US
is not sufficient...
OPEC still controls world price,
and world price controls US price.

even if the US net-exported
both crude and products,
OPEC would still control US price


23 posted on 03/03/2017 8:16:13 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: RipSawyer

Rip.

how much energy-content are you measuring
for your reference, and test batches, of fuel.
lets start there.


24 posted on 03/03/2017 8:19:06 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: RockyTx

I think you know I’m not running a laboratory here. For years I was a traveling tech rep driving mostly in Eastern South Carolina repeating trips to different towns and generally on the same type terrain and using the same roads over and over.

I ran MANY repeated mileage tests making the same trips with ten percent ethanol and then with straight gasoline back when both were readily available. I averaged eight percent lower MPG using ten percent ethanol. I am not interested in a bunch of laboratory formulas, only in actual results.

I first became aware of the difference back around 1980, I had just bought a new 1980 Pontiac Pheonix four cylinder, stick shift with overdrive and a station where I usually filled my tank began offering “gasohol” which was touted as giving BETTER MPG at the time. I had not driven a hundred miles when it became obvious that I was going to get much lower mileage than I was used to. The next time I filled up with straight gasoline and notified the manager of my results. He was mortified, he had been assured that customers would flock to his station to buy this wonderful new fuel mix to INCREASE their mileage. It was not long until “gasohol” was no longer available here until the EPA began requiring it.

Since retiring I worked for a time on the phone calling voters about different legislative issues. I worked on the campaign to stop the EPA from requiring fifteen percent ethanol which would have been a disaster. The only people I spoke to who supported it it were corn farmers, others who lived in the same area but were NOT farmers hated it. I spoke to small engine mechanics who worked on chain saws, lawn mowers etc and boat dealers who sold all sizes of outboard engines, they all said that ten percent ethanol keeps the small engine and boat engine mechanics working overtime. I run ten percent ethanol in my car and pickup only because straight fuel is not readily available everywhere and the price of straight fuel is fifty percent higher than ten percent ethanol only because of government action. There is a station a mile from my house that offers straight gasoline which I buy for my chain saws and other small engines even though I have to pay a huge premium for it. In my view there is no way on Earth to justify requiring ten percent ethanol in gasoline. Anything to the contrary is simply disinformation. Even the global warming hoax falls on its face because if you accept the whole fake theory about carbon dioxide causing global warming which is not actually happening ten percent ethanol would be WORSE than straight gasoline. Not only that but enormous quantities of water are used in producing ethanol. Any moonshiner knows that his still has to be set up where there is a huge supply of water, preferably a clear stream so the water is free.


25 posted on 03/04/2017 6:04:07 AM PST by RipSawyer (At the end of the day...the sun goes down.)
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To: RipSawyer

mathematically

And the LIB in the first row asks==== Wats dis mathematically thing he’s talkin bout ?


26 posted on 03/04/2017 6:14:13 AM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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