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Feds ask Louisiana to ban paddling in school
NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune ^ | 11/30/16 | Danielle Dreilinger, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune

Posted on 11/30/2016 3:54:28 PM PST by BBell

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To: crosdaddy

Ahh that’s right, paddles are sold across state lines . . . .


21 posted on 11/30/2016 4:18:15 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: al baby

The school I went had no grace period. You saw the principle and he past the judgment and you were immediately paddled. Kind of like a Chinese trial.


22 posted on 11/30/2016 4:20:59 PM PST by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: BBell

Expected to see Jasper fro m the Simpsons


23 posted on 11/30/2016 4:21:44 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: BBell; All
Thank you for referencing that article BBell. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

I don’t how much of a problem that paddling is in Louisiana. But it remains that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to decide policy for INTRAstate schools.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

H O W E V E R …

The corrupt feds have a history of threating the loss of federal funding on many issues which the states have actually never expressly constitutionally delegate to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So the states are going to need to work with Trump to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes which the feds cannot justify under Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

Once unconstitutional federal taxes are stopped then it will be easier for the states to put a stop to unconstitutional federal interference in state affairs. This is because the feds will no longer be able to threaten a loss of federal funding, such funding based on what is arguably stolen state revenues.

24 posted on 11/30/2016 4:21:52 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: BBell

You've been a very, very bad boy.

25 posted on 11/30/2016 4:23:09 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BBell

I think they should send every discipline case that would previously require paddling to the Department of Education for counseling. Make sure there’s no racist metal detectors or ID check at the door.


26 posted on 11/30/2016 4:26:36 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: editor-surveyor

but evokes attitudinal adjustment.

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Yep made me make sure as best I could that I didn’t ‘get caught’ doing something that
had a whipping as punishment with either a belt or those long limber oak tree switches.
Dad was the belt person and mom was the switch person.


27 posted on 11/30/2016 4:32:38 PM PST by deport
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To: BBell
corporal punishment is dealt out disproportionately to students of color

I would bet that corporal punishment is dealt out VERY VERY disproportionately to students of the male sex.

28 posted on 11/30/2016 4:38:34 PM PST by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know.? -Homer Simpson)
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To: RoosterRedux

In my Alexandria, VA elementary school my third grade teacher mounted a ‘Board of Education’ prominently over the front blackboard. She never used it, but we kids were afraid enough of her that none of us acted up. It was not until we returned to Alexandria and I came back to the same school in 6th grade to find out that I was taller than she was ... and I’m only 5’ myself.


29 posted on 11/30/2016 4:49:26 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: BBell

When I first started teaching, paddling was still in effect. I hated doing it—the old “this hurts me more than it hurts you” has a lot of truth to it. Anyway, the procedure was we had to have another teacher to witness the punishment. We made sure that all classroom doors nearby were open. This way the swats benefited the kids hearing them as well as the one being punished.

The problem was that some teachers were “paddle happy”. They seemed to need to administer swats on a nearly daily basis. Parents started to say “don’t swat my kid”. As the do-not-swat list grew larger, the punishment fell out of use. Most of the kids not on the list were the kind who would never get swats in the first place. Finally the school board said that teacher could no longer paddle—only the principal. Frankly, I didn’t miss not paddling.

As to minorities getting a “disproportionate” share of corporal punishment, well, everyone knows that the main reason for that is that they are breaking important rules at a disproportionate rate, but you’re not supposed to say/notice that.


30 posted on 11/30/2016 4:55:25 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: BBell

Paddling is “strikingly common statewide.” HA HA


31 posted on 11/30/2016 5:07:36 PM PST by upchuck (Obama once thought that he belonged to the ages. Now he belongs in the rubbish bin. h/t D.Greenfield)
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To: RoosterRedux

“I got plenty of paddlings in school and my Mom tore my tail up on a daily basis.”

I consider paddling and the like of children to be form of communication. They develop an immunity to words.

A relative that has been a middle school teacher for many years says that student behavior got worse quickly when corporal punishment was prohibited.

Corporal punishment was used only if a child’s parents gave written permission.


32 posted on 11/30/2016 5:44:36 PM PST by cymbeline
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To: BBell

I was only paddled twice in school.

Once when I confront3ed a 3rd grade teacher about a spelling test. I erased the word, spelled it right, she counted it wrong because i erased it. When she refused to change it I argued with her, nobody told me we couldn’t erase. She still refused. My mother went to school and argued it, she still refused. I had already been paddled for arguing with her, that pissed my mother off too. She didn’t mind if I had deserved it...

So I brought an ink pen to school and refused to use a pencil ever again. The teacher asked me what I would do if I made a mistake, I told her it would stay a mistake. She also tried to make me put away the pen and use a pencil but she couldn’t find a rule that said I had to use a pencil...

The 2nd time was when one of the school bullies started a fight with me, I knocked him down and was showing him what happens when you finally piss the little kid off when the principal whistled..oops... that means TROUBLE...he didn’t play games. (this was 5th grade)

He brought the other guy in the office first, paddled him good, I think 20 whacks. Chewed him out, told him to never touch me again. Oh yeah, his “board of education” was a 1x4 about 18-20 inches long with 1/8 inch holes drilled 1 inch apart all the way from end to end in a diamond pattern except the handle...and he was quite good at applying it to the seat of knowledge...the guy left crying.

Ok so he called me in, I didn’t need a paddling, listening to the other guy was bad enough...he told me he had watched the whole thing, he knew the guy had been asking for it all year (this was late spring), but he had to paddle me anyway for fighting. Well..OK...he had his rules too...

So he had me turn around and just barely swatted me with the paddle 2 times, shook his finger in my face and told me if anybody asked I definitely HAD been paddled...He was stern, but he was also very fair. He knew the guy had been pushing me for a fight all year, I had no idea he knew it. He didn’t say so, but I think he was glad I finally got mad and did it. But he also knew the other guy started it, I just finally got pissed and blew my top. So I got paddled...I can thump you harder with my finger...but I got paddled...

Next day the other guy had a black eye, busted lip, half dozen bruises...and he was 2 years older than me and a lot bigger...I pretty much let him have a good dose of a whole year’s worth of pent up pissed off...

Anyway, I didn’t mind getting paddled that time, I wouldn’t have been too upset if I had gotten a real paddling...the worst of the school bullies (in that school anyway) never even looked at me wrong again. That’s what I wanted...get this jerk off my case...


33 posted on 11/30/2016 7:49:08 PM PST by Paleo Pete (When the sun comes up, nitrogen turns into daytrogen.)
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34 posted on 11/30/2016 7:50:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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