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Nazi Germany's Battleship Bismarck vs. America's Iowa Class: Who Wins?
National Interest ^ | July 28, 2016 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 07/29/2016 7:43:59 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: NohSpinZone

It was scuttled in the River Plate outside of Montevideo.


61 posted on 07/29/2016 8:52:35 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: laplata

Not than the Montana class.


62 posted on 07/29/2016 8:53:57 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: laplata

Not than the Montana class.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana-class_battleship


63 posted on 07/29/2016 8:55:04 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: DCBryan1

It was a piece of armor plating which had been intended for Yamato’s sister Shinano, but was discarded after the decision to convert her to a carrier. The Navy recovered it after the war.


64 posted on 07/29/2016 8:57:03 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: Larry Lucido

65 posted on 07/29/2016 9:04:20 AM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: Broker

Yamato vs N.J.
http://9gag.com/gag/aeGzrZB/26-inch-thick-armor-from-japanese-yamato-class-battleship-pierced-by-a-us-navy-16-inch-gun


66 posted on 07/29/2016 9:08:51 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: C19fan

Fire control radar was a huge advantage. Look at what the West Virginia did at Leyte.


67 posted on 07/29/2016 9:13:51 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: Coronal

I know. I was joking.


68 posted on 07/29/2016 9:16:32 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: C19fan
The "Imperial Japanese Navy" website Niahon Kaigun has a page where all of the major battleships from Germany, Japan, US, Britain, and Italy are compared for the Heavyweight, Middleweight, Best all-around Treaty Battleship, and Best all-around Battleship categories. Good stuff!
69 posted on 07/29/2016 9:24:46 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is circumstance. Three times is enemy action.)
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To: knittnmom
Absolutely! Johnny Horton's captivated me through my childhood. Bismark was awesome.

This summer my wife and I went "North, to Alaska".

70 posted on 07/29/2016 9:37:52 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: DarthVader

“Not than the Montana class”.

But they were never constructed.

Thank you for this information:

The Montana-class battleships of the United States Navy were planned as successors to the Iowa class, being slower but larger, better armored, and having superior firepower. Five were approved for construction during World War II, but changes in wartime building priorities resulted in their cancellation in favor of the Essex-class aircraft carriers and Iowa class before any Montana-class keels were laid.


71 posted on 07/29/2016 9:48:12 AM PDT by laplata ( Speaking The Truth Is Now Considered 'Hate Speech')
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To: C19fan; kearnyirish2; All; Eric in the Ozarks; henkster

Combined Fleet page

http://www.combinedfleet.com/baddest.htm

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


72 posted on 07/29/2016 9:49:59 AM PDT by alfa6
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To: ConorMacNessa

Sorry meant to hit you for #72

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


73 posted on 07/29/2016 9:51:28 AM PDT by alfa6
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To: GingisK
The rush is on!

Spent hours and hours listening to Johnny Horton, Tex Ritter, and the country greats when I was a kid. My "playlist" was a stack of vinyl albums.

74 posted on 07/29/2016 10:14:13 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: laplata

I know but man they would have been something else especially with the 12 16 inch 50 cal guns that the Iowas had. With the radar control, heavier armor and weight of broadside they would have been frightening.


75 posted on 07/29/2016 10:22:43 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: NohSpinZone

Sometimes it’s hard to tell, with all of the nonsense BS floating around.


76 posted on 07/29/2016 10:55:04 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: C19fan

The Iowa should win, all other factors being equal. After all, the Iowa class was designed with the Bismarck battle as history and a source of data. However, the Bismarck took on the pride of the British navy, considered the best in the world at the time. The Radar and optical firing system proved incredibly accurate.

Both sides had design flaws. The British armor and powder room protection were inadequate on the Hood. The Bismarck, while able to withstand heavy fire, could not handle aircraft well at all. These problems were all taken into account for the Iowa design.


77 posted on 07/29/2016 11:00:18 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: NohSpinZone
The Bismark barely beat the HMS Hood

The Hood disappeared after being hit with one salvo, three survivors. Must be a new meaning to 'barely beat'. Bismarck annihilated the Hood.

78 posted on 07/29/2016 11:16:48 AM PDT by xone
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To: mountn man

Thanks for that pic.


79 posted on 07/29/2016 11:21:08 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone

You’re right. The Prince of Wales did the real damage to the Bismarck, not Hood. Faulty recollection on my part!


80 posted on 07/29/2016 11:23:43 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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