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Posted on 01/10/2016 12:33:51 PM PST by al baby

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To: FourPeas
Looks like a number of FReepers are Dave Ramsey listeners. :)

Yes, but it works.

The point about paying off debt is the same as investing it in a fixed rate investment is good. I never thought of it like that before.

41 posted on 01/10/2016 1:52:39 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: al baby

Powerball.

Seriously though....a condo is iffy to me. I’d take the 25k, sell the condo, and find a better arrangement. I’m biased against anything that requires maintenance fees that you don’t fully control.

If it was a single family home, different answer.


42 posted on 01/10/2016 1:54:49 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: caww

Mr. mm and I are debt free as well and you are so right.


43 posted on 01/10/2016 1:57:14 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: al baby
At 6 percent you are getting a tax deduction so it is really like 4-5%. You could refinance to a lower rate. But, at 6% it is kind of a toss-up. The average mutual fund returns about 8%, but you have taxes on that. You should make sure you have an emergency fund. If you can refinance to 3-4% I would invest the money. If it stays at 6% then either seems OK. >p?

We paid off our mortgage several years ago. It was not a high rate and it would have been better to invest the money rather than pay off a low-interest loan, but I just don't like debt. The 30 year mortgage was paid off in 12 years.

44 posted on 01/10/2016 2:17:40 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: RFEngineer

That might be hard to move id love to we are still debating on that one. however I have been on the board for over ten years so i kinda have control over stuff


45 posted on 01/10/2016 2:26:43 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know)
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To: Larry Lucido

Ok Hi larry how are you Sir Happy New Years Annies mom passed away Jan 2 sad


46 posted on 01/10/2016 2:28:06 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know)
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To: al baby

If you’re pondering a move, keep the cash available to facilitate that. Don’t pay down the mortgage yet.....my opinion


47 posted on 01/10/2016 2:33:54 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

all your great answers have spawned more questions let try to get on Cramers show and see what he says


48 posted on 01/10/2016 3:25:45 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know)
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To: al baby

Pay the mortgage, unless you can earn more than your interest cost. And allow for cost of taxes on any profit from your investment. So if your mortgage is 4% and your investment earns 5%, but you pay 2% in taxes, you’ve lost money.


49 posted on 01/10/2016 3:33:48 PM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: al baby

Paying off a mortgage versus investing the funds is a more complicated formula than X% mortgage versus Y% rate of investment return.

With the mortgage, you have the mortgage interest write-off, so (for example) a 6% rate costs you less than 6%, depending on your tax bracket. Another element ..the annual interest paid declines as you pay down your mortgage...as will your deduction.

With an investment, you may have to pay taxes on your earnings (interest, dividends). If you put the money in stocks, there won’t be any taxes until you sell (and have gains). Another element to the investment side...if your earnings are always reinvested, you’ll be earning returns on your “earnings”.

Money market accounts can pay up to around 1.0% (generaly, credit unions). Dividend paying stocks can pay much higher, but you risk loss of principal.

Another question...are you eligible for a traditional IRA or SEP IRA? These could give you a great tax deduction, plus your earnings still collect untaxed in the IRA until you pull money out.


50 posted on 01/10/2016 3:36:49 PM PST by moovova
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To: al baby

Cash = flexibility. You can always pay the mortgage down with the same cash anytime, or even over an extended period of time in the future.


51 posted on 01/10/2016 3:39:13 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: al baby

Try to become debt-free 1st. If you are under 50, since your mortgage isn’t much, you might try to buy rental property, and again, keep your debt as low as possible. That rental property will go up in value while simultaneously giving you monthly cash flow.


52 posted on 01/10/2016 3:42:31 PM PST by jobim
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To: al baby
A guaranteed income for life----

12,500 PowerBall tickets

53 posted on 01/10/2016 3:44:35 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: al baby
though i do have to agree with those that said put some away for a rainy day if you haven't already
54 posted on 01/10/2016 4:01:07 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Kid Shelleen
That is a classic finance questions that not even the experts can agree on.

If you owe 100,000 at 3%, and take 30 years to pay it back, that will cost you fifty thousand dollars! At 5% that will cost you ninety-three thousand dollars!

loan calculator

55 posted on 01/10/2016 4:09:35 PM PST by cornelis
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To: al baby

Ten thousand in a junk bond fund, the rest to pay down some of the mortgage.....


56 posted on 01/10/2016 5:49:32 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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