Posted on 05/28/2015 4:11:45 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
SOTC, the sad thing is - even if the trade deal is as bad as odawg thinks it is (which I doubt) - Cruz has done FAR FAR more for the things odawg claims to believe in than Trump ever will. Meanwhile, Trump has been involved in far more crony capitalist ventures and donated to many people who loathe what odawg claims to stand for than almost any other Republican in history.
Trump’s bizarre political history is one that should engender suspicion as the first reflex...Cruz’ history should engender trust. some have it bass ackward
I was the one who posted that.
It was from 2012 it turns out. Well before Trump was a canddiate.
Just saying. If he was just a person stating an opinion (even picking on Michelle Malkin) I am completely on the side of saying speak your minds.
“Well that would be cute, pithy and effective...IF IF IF...it was Cruz making it secret....the way this IS Donald making it secret....and lording the secrecy over us the way Donald is.”
YOUR post was: “we have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it...” That was meant to be a very critical, cunning take down of what Trump said about a strategy. When Cruz voted for the secret bill, he BLESSED it by his VOTE. He owns it. “...IF IF IF...it was Cruz making it secret” is a laughable dodge and a distinction without a difference. Do you actually, honestly think a bill kept secret is a good bill?
Dude, down dude....I said you almost had a point. And you did...almost.
But get over this childish notion of “blessing” something by voting for or against it. Sometimes there are nothing but shitty choices. Adults have come to accept this. Maybe one day you will too......
Trump - Biden in ‘16.
Don’t forget to tip your servers and try the veal.
I repeat myself, but: (Ann Coulter said he is changing his tune a bit since this)
The following is a Corner (NRO) posting from Ramesh Ponnuru:
Cruz on immigration
Wall Street Journal: Mr. Cruzs hard-edged message against immigration may play in the GOP primaries
Ponnuru responds: Cruz is for a guest-worker program and open to offering legal status to illegal immigrants. He voted against an amendment to cap legal immigration over the next decade at 33 million. I can understand how, from the Journals perspective, Cruz seem too restrictionist. But I dont think its right to say that Cruz has an anti-immigration message. Update: Cruz also offered an amendment to expand H-1B visas by a factor of five.
An old Corner posting from John Derbyshire:
Readers who have followed the Senate wrangling over the immigration bill may have been confused by some of the jargon being thrown around. In a spirit of public service, I offer the following brief glossary of some of the terms you have been hearing.
legalization -— amnesty
guest worker plan -— amnesty
temporary worker plan -— amnesty
path to citizenship -— amnesty
out of the shadows -— amnesty
comprehensive reform -— amnesty
I hope that helps clarify things.
I’m sure he could at least bankrupt them..
It is clear that you don't like Cruz. Who is your preferred candidate?
Almost Obama like, we have to elect it to find out what is in it. Ok, I know that was the Wicked Witch of the West, but she didn’t run for Pres.
Trump could try to bankrupt them. He’s good at that.
Does it involve free trips to Atlantic City?
.......Offer them 75 virgins each without having to blow themselves up.
And you think Trump is going to be more hard line on illegal immigration than Cruz...LOLOLOLOLOL.....
And you think legal immigration is the problem? LOLOLOLOL
” Sometimes there are nothing but shitty choices.”
Your own words trip you up. Why did he vote for the bill if it was that bad? Yes, he did in fact bless the bill with his vote. You are in denial. Obviously, the bill is bad or Obama would not have kept it secret. That is simple logic. But you need to refer to what Senator Sessions wrote about the bill. He has first hand experience with it, along with the devious maneuverings associated with it. As for free trade, you can also research that and you will find that all the warnings issued about it, at its inception, that it would be a disaster for the United States, have come to past.
“It is clear that you don’t like Cruz.
It is not that I don’t like Cruz, it is that he can never square the fact that he voted for the secret trade bill, empowering Obama, with his contention that he is a conservative who is loyal to the Constitution.
“And you think legal immigration is the problem? LOLOLOLOL
What’s with all the LOLs? You don’t think that over a million non-white, non-Christian legal immigrants a year taking jobs/taxpayer money is not a problem?
Thinks he can turn horse manure into gold, but he's not telling that, either.
.... he can never square ... his contention that he is a conservative who is loyal to the Constitution.
For not 'disliking' someone, this statement which infers Senator Cruz is not loyal to the Constitution, is a contradiction.
In online forums like this, 'concern trolls' abound. The way to prove you aren't one of these is to say who your candidate is, and why. Not merely knock others.
Stick to your stupid TV shows and hotels Donald. Nobody cares what you think about real issues. You’re an assclown.
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