No Ma: Marijuana's Hardest Sell — the Chinese

SF Weekly ^ | Wednesday, Apr 22 2015 | Chris Roberts

[Wolfie]

Yeah, because nobody has the moral high ground like the Chinese.

[DiogenesLamp]

I've been pointing out what Opium did to China on all of these drug threads that I happen to find.

Legalized Drugs are an existential threat to the survival of a nation. China showed us what happens with a real world experiment.

[CharlesOConnell]

Marijuana users may have ‘false memories’: Brain scans reveal how cannabis smokers can live in their own reality

• Brains scans showed cannabis users have a less active hippocampus
• This is the area that is associated with storing and retrieving memories
• Memory problems persisted months after someone stopped smoking

ByEllie Zolfagharifard For Dailymail.com

Published: 17:21 EST, 22 April 2015 | Updated: 19:16 EST, 23 April 2015

[USMCPOP]

“... Memory problems persisted months after someone stopped smoking...”

Shit, I just remembered I need to go get some more beer. Thanks!

[El Cid]

I've been pointing out what Opium did to China on all of these drug threads that I happen to find.

An excellent account of the evil effects of opium on China, with a happy ending, was contained in the biography of Pastor Hsi.
Pastor Hsi

[DiogenesLamp]

An excellent account of the evil effects of opium on China, with a happy ending, was contained in the biography of Pastor Hsi. Pastor Hsi

I usually rebut with this book.

"Drugging a Nation, The Story of China and the Opium Curse"

[DiogenesLamp]

Marijuana users may have ‘false memories’: Brain scans reveal how cannabis smokers can live in their own reality

It has certainly been my experience that cannabis smokers live in their own reality. Just try arguing with some of them.

[Organic Panic]

Don't harsh my mellow, man.

[ConservingFreedom]

At the local level is exactly where these decisions should be made.

[chajin]

Sometimes you can be right being Wong

[familyop]

How China got rid of opium
http://www.sacu.org/opium.html

The people were all for it. Participation was very popular. They have suffered more than enough damage to have done it with or without the approval of any dictatorship.

[familyop]

...had suffered more than enough damage, even.

[ConservingFreedom]

How China got rid of opium

"Street committees" and "re-education" - that is, communism.

[familyop]

Liberal, commie dopers wouldn't like it. [Best part in bold for emphasis.]

How China got rid of opium
Society for Anglo-Chinese Understanding

Neighbourhoods were mobilised in a massive educational programme. The street committees which governed the neighbourhoods held study groups in which the evils of opium and heroin were discussed. Families of known addicts were educated not to blame their addict members, but to encourage them to seek help. Addicts themselves were impressed by the fact that they were not blamed for their addiction, since they were considered victims of foreign governments and other enemies of the people. After their cure, they were given training and then placed in paying jobs. Many of them were hired by the government to work with other addicts.

At the same time, pressure was placed on the dealers. Those who surrendered were accepted by the community, re-educated, trained for meaningful work and given jobs. The rest were packed off to prison, and the worst offenders were executed. By 1956, the People's Republic of China had virtually eliminated its drug problem.

[huldah1776]

You know it has to be bad for a culture when it is used in an expression to express evil. “Religion is the opiate of the people.”

Too bad they got it wrong, eh?

[USMCPOP]

When I was in Thailand ‘77-’80, there was pot around. But it seemed to be a low-class kind of thing to do. I can understand the villagers who were 20 miles from the nearest electricity doing it to ward off boredom (or embrace it). I think they made green chicken soup sometimes.

[familyop]

It appears that you either missed or ignored this from my earlier comment and posted the usual fallacious argument (beside the point). The people were all for it. Participation was very popular. They had suffered more than enough damage to have done it with or without the approval of any dictatorship.

[familyop]

True. That’s a good point.

[familyop]

“Street committees”

Neighborhood Watch.

and “re-education”

Just say no to drugs.

Ronald Reagan was for it.