Reformation difference between Islam and Christianity that the MSM Ignores. ~ Vanity

GraceG

[txrefugee]

The. anti-Christian bigots always equate Muslim butchery with the Crusades. Look up the history of the Muslim conquer, Saladin, who wiped out thousands of Europeans in merciless slaughter to add to Muslim territory. Had the Christians not fought back, they would have had to convert to Islam in order to survive.

History is repeating itself and our abject ignorance of it is an enormous defect in our culture.

[Sasparilla]

The last “Christian” war IIRC was in Northern Ireland. There have been sporatic nutjobs like Jim Jones killing his “flock.” Then, a couple of hundred years ago there was Salem.

But, no continuous and ongoing murders or mayhem have taken place by Christians in the name of God or conversions to Christianity has been happening for 2,000 years unlike those since the time of Mohammed.

[SunkenCiv]

[scumbag] Ron Paul On Paris Attack: Bad Foreign Policy "Invites Retaliation"

[pacific_waters]

The Crusades were a belated reaction to the conquest of the ME and Northern Africa by muslim forces.

[pacific_waters]

And the Protestants were every bit as vicious agains the Catholics.

[PIF]

In the Haddiths, Mohammad clearly says anyone attempting to change to Given Word of allah must be killed.

Mohammad also clearly said that on the Second Given Half of the qu’ran is valid. Since all the peaceful suras (which, incidentally, are plagiarized from the Bible and the Torah) are in the First Given Half which has been invalid since the time of Mohammad, what would an Islamic Reformation look like presuming the reformers were not killed, en mass? Only kill every other non-believer?

Further, to attempt such a change would be like a Christian attempting to gainsay Christ.

Islam cannot be reformed.

[Capt. Tom]

They also killed Jews who refused to convert to Christianity.

I am not a Christian a Jew or a Muslim.

But I see a big difference between Christianity and Islam.
People like Timothy McVeigh and the Inquisitors are violating the fundamentals of their Christian religion, which are laid out in the NEW TESTAMENT.
There is nothing in the New Testament that encourages or justifies their actions.

The Koran and Hadiths, the fundamentals of Islam are radically different.
They justify killing non believes, and anyone who is a threat to the faith. - Tom

[Lady Heron]

When it came time to reform the reformers had a past of peace they could point to get the faith back on track as at one time Christians used to be the persecuted people, so the reformers could say, "this is wrong because we are doing the persecuting now, when we used to be the persecuted".

It had nothing to do with pointing to the past but for the common man being able to read the Bible for himself and figure out that what the church was saying and where it was leading was not really what the Bible was saying.

Islam on the other hand will never have that option as it says what it says and is being taught truthfully in the mosques unlike Christianity before the reformation.

[Albion Wilde]

took several hundred years to spread across the world and then never did it by the sword.

Absolutely not true.

That said; whatever it takes.

[Albion Wilde]

This is why Islam needs a Revolution

It's not going to happen, and Westerners who think it will — or could — are sticking their heads in the sand in hopes of delaying the inevitable world war.

[sakic]

Why and when mass slaughters occurred does not make it less heinous.

Again, Islam has done far worse, but there is an awful lot of rationalizing in this thread. Christians, in the name of Christianity slaughtered many Jews for no good reason.

If the Crusades was only about Islam, no Jews would have been murdered.

It’s okay to admit wrongdoing by Christians or at least it should be.

Christianity grew up. Islam has yet to grow up, if it ever will.

[hlmencken3]

Don’t leave out the Crusader murder of ten of thousands of fellow Christians in Constantinople during the Fourth Crusade.

[NTHockey]

I guess you missed this sentence.

“It was only later, hundreds of years after they became christian countries that bad things happened like the Spanish inquisition and witch burning.”

[Verginius Rufus]

Christians were fighting Muslims in Spain since the 8th century, more than 300 years before the First Crusade. The Song of Roland is very inaccurate in its historical details but is based on a real event in 778 when Charlemagne was fighting the Muslims in Spain. The Byzantine Empire was fighting for its very survival against Muslims enemies from the 7th century on.

Tamerlane, a Muslim, was one of the bloodiest conquerors in history (although few if any of his victims were Christians).

[Verginius Rufus]

Christians were fighting Muslims in Spain since the 8th century, more than 300 years before the First Crusade. The Song of Roland is very inaccurate in its historical details but is based on a real event in 778 when Charlemagne was fighting the Muslims in Spain. The Byzantine Empire was fighting for its very survival against Muslims enemies from the 7th century on.

Tamerlane, a Muslim, was one of the bloodiest conquerors in history (although few if any of his victims were Christians).

[sakic]

Didn’t miss it.

I even addressed it.

Maybe you missed my reply.

[lonevoice]

That really is the bottom line. To those who can’t understand it, there’s little more that can be said.

[MeshugeMikey]

I was astonished when I read “my” first translation of the stinking koran back in 2001.

its utterly depraved...clearly HYPER contradictory and thoroughly INSANE...and evil

[NorthMountain]

and the fact that Christianity is true and Islam is not...

And that's really the only relevant fact.

[WayneS]

I’m willing to kill as many of our enemies as it takes, and to die myself, to avoid having my country overrun by savage muslims.

If that results in a “mass slaughter” then so be it. I will not apologize for it and I will not agree that it is in any way “wrong”.