Egypt’s al-Sisi Makes Extraordinary Speech on Islam

PJ Media ^ | 1/3/2015 | Roger L. Simon

[Stepan12]

Islam would do well to open a school following the percepts of Islam greatest philosopher, Averroes. All these idiots with their multiculturalism and alleged cultural sensitivity never mention him. A...reverse Muslim Thomas Acquinas managed to move the Muslim population against Averroes because the Muslims were losing territory while he was alive and those reversals were unfortunately blamed on him.

Al Sisi, with his power and influence, can staff Al Azhar University with Muslim scholars who still know Averroes and maybe that would help.

[Usagi_yo]

This isn’t the Islamic reformation, this is the Islamic inquisition. the Islamic reformation comes afterwards.

[BunnySlippers]

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[Cap Huff]

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[faithhopecharity]

Maybe. More likely obama will just keep trying to force, facilitate, finance, arrange the islamoNazi muslim bros takeover of Egypt. Like he’s been trying to do all along, in Egypt and similarly the most anti- American hostile islamoNazi groups everywhere he can.

[Pearls Before Swine]

This is something no Western leader has the had the courage to do, certainly not Barack Obama, despite his Muslim education.

Re Obama, that should read, "despite his Muslim indoctrination and belief.

[left that other site]

There is a big problem with attempting to start an Islamic Reformation.

There are just too many things wrong with islam that trying to nail them to the mosque’s front door would be like attempting to attach the Manhattan Phone directory with a staple gun..

[Mrs. Don-o]

No, it's not the Islamic Inquisition. Church inquisitions had authority only to investigate (which is what "inquisition" means -- it's an inquest) and only over church members. They had and claimed no authority over the unbaptized.

(This applies to Church inquisitons, not State inquisitions.)

Moreover, the Inquisition initiated and developed the practice of Procedural Due Process. making it far fairer than the secular courts of the time. An accused person would ordinarily fare better at the hands of the Inquisition than the only two other alternatives: mob justice, or prosecution by a prince or noble who was interested in seizing their estates. People even sought to have their cases transferred from civil to ecclesiastical courts, in order to benefit from the signficantly improved chance of being acquitted.

A little more Inquisition historical background here (Link) plus this additional great link to historian Thomas Madden.

[wtd]

Paradox...The hard earned zebibah in the middle of al Sisi's upper forehead betrays inbred taqqiya.. Wolf in sheeps clothing?

[arthurus]

Islam cannot be reformed without changeing it into an entirely different religion. The religion is centered on Mohammed, not on Allah and that makes it unreformable. With all the wild and wacky variations that developed from that portion of Christianity that jumped off the ship in the Reformation they are still almost all Christians. Those that are not, don't call themselves Christians ̣(Unitarians and such) except arguably Mormons. Christianity is a belief in the Divinity. Islam is a belief in a man, Mohammed. How he lived his life and what he thought and did is the model for all Moslems. A reformation would have to exclude Mohammed or deny that he was the Perfect Man which denies the very basic tenets of that faith.

[arthurus]

Islam cannot be reformed without changeing it into an entirely different religion. The religion is centered on Mohammed, not on Allah and that makes it unreformable. With all the wild and wacky variations that developed from that portion of Christianity that jumped off the ship in the Reformation they are still almost all Christians. Those that are not, don't call themselves Christians ̣(Unitarians and such) except arguably Mormons. Christianity is a belief in the Divinity. Islam is a belief in a man, Mohammed. How he lived his life and what he thought and did is the detailed and exact model for all Moslems. A reformation would have to exclude Mohammed or deny that he was the Perfect Man which denies the very basic tenets of that faith.

[Capt. Tom]

Muhamed was too clever for that. Remember, officially to a Muslim he’s the LAST PROPHET. Nobody can change the design.

That is why the religion can't be altered by mere mortals.-Tom

[Kozak]

Yup. Remember the Koran was dictated to Mohamed by an Angel. According to Islam it’s the literal, unchangeable word of Allah. Try reforming a religion based on that....

[Usagi_yo]

Like I said. Inquisition.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Did you read the links?

Jihadis are not known for adherence to the rule of law, attention to due process, surpassing secular norms of justice, or clemency in judgment. You were making a metaphor whose factual basis has turned out to be thin. Perhaps you were relying too much upon the Black Legend.

I won't even mention Monty Python. :o)

[Usagi_yo]

Actually, it’s not as thin as you want, and I’m not impressed with pendantry. Sorry, that’s all I can come up with.

[Mrs. Don-o]

It would be a shame to call resort to historic facts pedantry. Well, as the saying goes, Happy New Year.

[Usagi_yo]

Happy new year to you too.

[wtd]

Dr. Andrew Bostom: Sisi is just another caliphate idealizing apologist for Islam whose actions speak louder than his hollow words posted January 4, 2015

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

In context, Sisi might be doing the equivalent of asserting nationalism, which has a peculiarly Egyptian history.

That is, Islamic radicals and fundamentalists always push for the equivalent of internationalism, of the Muslim form, which is a return to an expansionistic type of Ottoman Empire, but with them in charge. Sultan as absolute ruler. (The Shiite version of this is similar, but with an expansionistic Shiite Empire, the “Shiite Crescent” taken from the Sunni lands.)

But the secular counter to this is nationalism. Many of the Muslim nations think of themselves as better than the “Arabs”, their derogatory name for Muslims from other countries.

The Turks, Egyptians and other North Africans, Saudis and the Bedouin in Jordan, as well as the Persian Shiites, all think of themselves as a cut above everyone else.

Previously, under pressure from the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian president Gamal Nasser went the route of popular nationalism, and was thus able to both suppress the MB as well as form the United Arab Republic with Syria, and smite the communists there, which he also correctly imagined a threat to Egypt.

But such nationalism is always multi-faceted, what we might call “two-faced”. Because Nasser was still expansionistic, wanting a pan-Arabic secular empire *with* Islam, but not ruled by it. So he played games with both the western powers and the Soviet Union, but could never be trusted.

In any event, Sisi might be moving in the direction of Nasser, at least to the point of suppressing the MB; but from there, it is anybody’s guess.