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Where 2 Rivers Meet, Visions for Grand Canyon Clash
NY Times ^ | DEC. 3, 2014 | ADAM NAGOURNEY

Posted on 12/04/2014 1:08:12 PM PST by SJackson

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To: 762X51
Haven't spent much time in Navjo land, have ya. ;-P


21 posted on 12/04/2014 2:56:53 PM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: SJackson

I was in that area this summer. There was an old church down off the main road. The area was closed.

When I was at a local gas station I asked one of the Navaho cops about it. (I wanted to go take pictures of it.). The cop told me it was closed to the public as it was “sacred” ground.

I told him we have Catholic Churches in the east too. They too are “sacred” ground. But we don’t lock them away from everyone.

He looked at the ground and laughed. Then he said that the teenagers were sneaking up there to drink on Saturday nights and the priest was sick of picking up beer cans and condoms off the front steps.

It is beautiful land...but I am no fan of the indigenous peoples.


22 posted on 12/04/2014 3:15:22 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: MeganC; SJackson

I watch the program America Unearthed. It’s an educational US history/travelogue program with some gratuitous drama thrown in (History channel)

One of the programs was about a Grand Canyon cave where Egyptian artifacts were found. Basically the government (Smithsonian)took it over and blocked all public or investigative entry.


23 posted on 12/04/2014 3:18:16 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Vigilanteman

I’be been to the Four Corners. Didn’t pay anyone $10 for the “privilege” either.


24 posted on 12/04/2014 3:23:20 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Vermont Lt
That's OK, but it their reservation.

In no way a criticism of your comment, but I have noted sites are a bit more remote in the west, even in rural areas east of the Mississippi. If they still had attendants at gas stations you could have asked him. Or perhaps checked a local bar or restaurant. Not to suggest either of us would trespass on a posted site. That said, old Churches are often fascinating, and are potential tourist attractions. When he say's sacred thus no entry, like you I've never heard of a Catholic Church with that kind of designation

25 posted on 12/04/2014 3:35:02 PM PST by SJackson (incompetent and feckless..the story of the Obama presidency. No hand on the f***ing tiller, Hillary)
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To: Cold Heart

I’ll have to check that out, thank you!


26 posted on 12/04/2014 4:39:41 PM PST by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
“This is where the tram would go,” she said. “This is the heart of our Mother Earth. This is a sacred area. It is going to be true destruction.” Ms. Yellowhorse was referring to the proposed $1 billion Grand Canyon Escalade development, a complex of restaurants, boutique hotels, stores and a trailer park clustered around a gondola that would whisk visitors down to a restaurant, an Indian cultural center and an elevated river walk on a part of the canyon floor that is Navajo land, just outside the park boundary.

27 posted on 12/04/2014 4:59:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: IronJack

According to the navajonationparks.org website, it is five dollars can per head to enter or photograph the monument. You can also look it up on footnote #4 of the Wikipedia article of the monument. Perhaps you went after hours when the money collectors weren’t there?


28 posted on 12/04/2014 7:42:47 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

This was 30 years ago, and government theft wasn’t quite so rampant then. And it was fairly late in the evening, as I recall, after a few beers during Happy Hour in Durango.


29 posted on 12/05/2014 5:34:05 AM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack

Makes sense. Thirty years ago, we had a real president who actually loved the U.S.A. and had just completed a 49 state sweep and came within 3000 Minnesota voters of making it 50.


30 posted on 12/05/2014 7:34:12 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SJackson

Indians are the ruin of nations. The USA had the least of them, and had the most developed culture and economy in the western hemisphere. Now they are flooding across the borders, and our country is doomed to become another mexico...

It is sad that it happens, and it is sad that no one admits that it happens.


31 posted on 12/05/2014 8:47:14 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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