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Microsoft decided to extort Windows 7 users too
semiaccurate.com ^ | Jul 14, 2014 | by Charlie Demerjian

Posted on 07/17/2014 9:17:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Malware bytes


41 posted on 07/18/2014 4:59:13 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

*yawn*

Semiaccurate is exactly that.

This is a non-starter. Microsoft’s been on desk for anti-trust and security issues before. You can’t fix personal habits, and Microsoft shouldn’t have to.

I’m far from an MS fanboy, but I am a Windows server engineer. I administer numerous domains including a mixed-mode Linux/Server 2012 domain in my own home. Microsoft products do what they do. If you want ironclad security, go buy a product from Symantec or use one of the myriad free AV programs and for God’s sake, be a little bit more discriminant about whose emails you open.

If grandma doesn’t normally send you emails with attachments, don’t open one when you get it!


42 posted on 07/18/2014 5:34:00 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: catnipman

Brilliant and simple.Would the effect of Office viruses and other viruses be contained in the limited space, which could be safely backed up to the admin space?


43 posted on 07/18/2014 5:34:25 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: 867V309
>>>>>>2 years is not "almost immediately." I'm using W8 and I like it, and it is fully supported with security patches.<<<<

Question: How many security patches for Windows 8 you installed since May 15 this year?

Methinks none. I also think you were not paying attention to what is going on.

Here's why. When 8.1 upgrade was released, I downloaded it the next day but could not install it(dreaded xxxx12 error message). As a result, I was NOT able to get ANY security patches for Windows 8 because there weren't any anymore. "Remedies" Microsoft provided on their website were completely useless and reminded me of Windows 3.11 time joke about an aviator being lost and landing on Microsoft campus.

As a desperate measure, I had to uninstall Windows, install fresh Windows 8, dowload and apply 96 (!) patches and then install Windows 8.1 upgrade, and all my software applications.

What a waste of time. Because of the Microsoft shoddy product, I had to spend the entire Saturday working on this. My time is worth at least $400, more than Microsoft charges for Windows. Good thing is I was able to do it alone and not having to pay someone to do it for me.

If you are still on Windows 8.0 your PC is at risk.

44 posted on 07/18/2014 6:36:16 AM PDT by DTA
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To: Squawk 8888
>>>>>>The claim that making 8 users upgrade to 8.1 is a shakedown? It's a free upgrade! Sheesh.<<<<<

Many users with Florida temperature IQ will not be able to apply the upgrade because the upgrade does not work on many machines.

If you don't know what I am talking about, Bing is your friend :-) Search for error 80073712". Perfect example how useless Microsoft help is.

45 posted on 07/18/2014 6:41:21 AM PDT by DTA
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To: for-q-clinton
Oh no, no bias at all.

</sarc>

Birdcage liner.
46 posted on 07/18/2014 6:49:19 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Talisker
I recommend Linux Mint 17 KDE GUI version. It is easy to install. Once installed on a hard drive, you can duplicate that hard drive and move to just about any other computer and the OS works fine. In my case it automatically found my wireless system with one click. The GUI is easy to navigate and looks a lot like Windows XP but faster.

Here is a link to Linux Mint 17. Click on the image:

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

47 posted on 07/18/2014 6:51:49 AM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

“Brilliant and simple.Would the effect of Office viruses and other viruses be contained in the limited space, which could be safely backed up to the admin space?”

I’m not that familiar with Office document viruses. I think most relate to macros, and once again, these can’t affect the system or its installed programs as long as executed within a limited user account.

Not sure what you mean about “backed up to admin space”. Macros are embedded in the documents themselves, but do no harm unless the document is opened. Copying the document to an administrator account would not be harmful (or particularly helpful for that matter), but if/when the document was opened in an administrator account, it would be harmful to the system.


48 posted on 07/18/2014 7:52:16 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
My Malware protection is Linux Mint 16 run in a VM via Virtual Box on WinXP (which has internet connectivity disabled).

I use XP as a utility OS only...games, Quicken, video/audio, etc. Email and Web access are via Linux. Works like a charm.

I'll never give another dime to Microsoft.

49 posted on 07/18/2014 8:12:38 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Watch out for Robolinux. Do the research. There is a size limit on your Windows boot partition. I forget what the limit is but my 250Gb C: drive is too large and I refuse to resize in order to get it to work. The limit is too small. I think it is 100Gb...but it is mentioned in the Robolinux install guides. Plus...forget gamimg on a XP VM.


50 posted on 07/18/2014 8:23:18 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: TChad
Extended support means free security patches, and they have currently committed extended support until 2020. So the article is flat out wrong.

Yes. Here is the Microsoft Support Lifecycle Policy FAQ:

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy

Free security update support continues in the extended support phase. 

**************************************

Make sure you are in the right section if refering to the consumer support (vice Business and Developer support) . From the link you provide in the "Consumer and Mujltimedia products"::

"Extended Support is not offered for Consumer and Multimedia products"

Standard support for the consumer is 5 years, from your link....so Windows 7 is nearing end of life by that definition.

51 posted on 07/18/2014 8:54:37 AM PDT by HalfFull ("The only thing new is the history you don't know.")
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To: DTA
My time is worth at least $400, more than Microsoft charges for Windows.

That always amuses me when people say that about something they are doing on their own time.

52 posted on 07/18/2014 9:20:53 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
>>>>>That always amuses me when people say that about something they are doing on their own time.<<<<<<<

OK. How much it would cost ME to hire YOU to format drive, install W8 and its 96 updates, then update W8 to W 8.1 and last not least install and configure some 20 software apps.

That's how much this is worth.

I did it on my own time, but not for my own pleasure. I did it because of the buggy 8.1 update that can not install itself.

53 posted on 07/18/2014 10:10:31 AM PDT by DTA
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To: DTA

If it costs you “at least $400” to do your own chores and puttering, then by all means hire people to do everything else in your life.

Personally, I separate my own chores and puttering from what I charge customers when I am working.


54 posted on 07/18/2014 10:22:34 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: DTA

Yeah, my bad; my update went fine. I still see it not as a shakedown, but as a garden-variety MS screwup.


55 posted on 07/18/2014 10:46:35 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: Squawk 8888; cva66snipe
"The best way to find out if linux is for you is to download the image from Ubuntu, burn a bootable CD, the select the “run from CD option.” You can run full linux sessions without having to commit."

Great advice. That would probably be worth a try first. And if Ubuntu is a little too busy for the machine (depends on the age/power of the machine), Debian would be worth a try. Same, if you would rather pick and choose between what will run on your machine. I found that my old laptop and slower wireless Internet access in this remote area were a little too busy with Ubuntu's many default services running for cell phones and other small devices.

Works with a CD, DVD or USB key:

Live install images
https://www.debian.org/CD/live/

With a little time to read the instructions and follow them, it's not hard at all. You'll find, though, that some of the Linux systems don't install Adobe Flash for viewing Youtube videos, for example, by default (software licensing issues, preferences).

The instructions for installing Adobe Flash and even Pipelight, Silverlight or whatever for viewing Netflix-like movies are easy to find and simple enough to follow. Wine--the Windows emulation package--works very well for those, BTW (fastest running, IMO). There's quite a universe of free software for Linux systems now, and compatibility issues are virtually nonexistant for most users. There's also quite a lot of compatible commercial software available for engineers and the like.

For embedded systems (industrial, security, odd appliances, etc.) and computers needing more security, NetBSD systems are a great way to go for those with enough time along with software and hardware knowledge.


56 posted on 07/18/2014 12:53:50 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: for-q-clinton
There’s no bias in this trash article.

The lack of objectivity, such as the many problems with his presumed alternatives, and that one can run Windows for years with extensive Internet use without any real problems with malware, weakens his case against MS.

57 posted on 07/18/2014 1:23:51 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: minnesota_bound
I have had printer calls where the printer - Lanier, Ricoh, HP etc worked in XP but not in Windows 7

It can be quite a process to get some printers to work under Linux as well, and which can vary from one flavor to another: http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/475015-new-user-cannot-get-lexmark-z700-p700 -work-2

But thank God for computers in general, and what an OS can enable for good.

58 posted on 07/18/2014 1:29:41 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: cva66snipe
In March because of the cut off I bought a new machine with WINDERS 8 it's 8 I hate.

I also went from XP to W/8, as explained here , and with Classic Shell it is like XP but overall better. But read thru the above for some other tips.

IE crashes constantly. I

But why even use IE except for updates. Firefox, actually Pale Moon , which is far far superior to IE, and Chrome if you are a "power user." There is even an extension than can enable posting in HTML here easier for those who do not know it (or have stiff fingers like me).

've avoided LINUX because people have said you'll spend a lot of time learning it, configuring it etc.

This is quite true despite hype, some more so than others, often even if you want to do most of what you can rather easily do with Windows, unless its just Internet and Word processing. In addition is the illegality of certain proprietary multimedia codecs. I found Xubuntu to be best for older hardware.

59 posted on 07/18/2014 1:42:11 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pray and press!


60 posted on 07/18/2014 1:43:12 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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