Posted on 06/24/2014 10:17:25 PM PDT by ransomnote
I have recently put my sweet, wonderful, soon to be 14-years-old BC, Molly, on Rimadyl (which is actually just ibuprofen in a smaller dose--only 75 mg per pill) for joint and mobility issues (I have to help her up into the cab of the truck these days).
Long ago, my sister, who worked for a vet at the time, showed me how to give a dog a pill: pry their mouth open, drop the pill as far back into the mouth as possible, clamp their mouth shut, and blow on their nose while stroking their throat. This does work, but as you might expect, it works better for some dogs than others.
So I started experimenting with alternative methods. What I ultimately came up with was this: take a Vienna sausage, cut it in half, use a plastic soda straw (just like you get in McDonalds or any other fast food restaurant) and stick it in the end of the sausage (don't go all the way through--about two thirds of the way works perfect), twirl the straw just a little bit, and pull it out (a little "plug" of sausage will come with it), stick the pill in the hole left by the straw, call the dog and say excitedly, "Do you want this?". Both the pill and the sausage are gone in a flash! No muss, no fuss. Happy dog, happy owner. To insure that the pill goes down, I immediately follow this with a couple of puppy sized dog biscuits.
You can squeeze the plastic straw moving toward the end to expel the "plug" of sausage. Reuse the straw if you want, or--if you are concerned about hygiene--just cut off an inch or so of the straw. That way you get multiple uses out of one soda straw.
I buy the Vienna sausages in a six pack of cans, seven sausages to the can. That's enough for 84 pills, provided, of course, that you are not particularly fond of Vienna sausages yourself.
Now, I know you are incredibly knowledgeable about all things canine, and you probably have worked our a technique as good or better than this, and I don't mean to insult you in any way, but I just wanted to share this with you and anyone else on this site who may have to give pills to dogs on a regular basis.
And thanks for sharing the info about hypothyroidism causing aggression in dogs. I did not know that.
B.
Do I have to repeat, yet again, my first hand knowledge and evidence
that dogsbite.org deliberately ignores evidence
and knowingly falsifies their statistics?
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You don’t have ANY first hand knowledge and evidence. You have baseless assertions and hearsay so no, there’s no need to repeat that.
Checked the old thread you linked:
Well well well....no evidence at all....just the same baseless assertion you used on this thread. Just hearsay by a pro pit advocate. How convenient. I guess since you’ve said it twice, you call it evidence. And THIS is what you think has refuted decades of statistics and first person accounts, police reports, videos and the medical studies proving that when pits attack, they inflict injuries which require longer hospital stays, more services and greater debility.
I see some of my posts indicate that even 3 years ago I was aware of the way pit advocates simply deny documented evidence, here’s a prior post from 2011:
“If I have time, I’ll track down the article. I am not really invested in doing so because I know that the pro pit lobby denies evidence presented (like fatality stats - those are hard to make disappear so they simply deny them, problem solved) so actually presenting evidence to them is a waste of time.
32 posted on 6/3/2011 11:55:10 PM by ransomnote”
Link to a study about heritability of dog agression an “abnormally agressive dog”: http://www.scribd.com/doc/14810086/Heritability-of-Behavior-in-the-Abnormally-Aggressive-Dog-by-A-Semyonova
From the article:
“Research now shows that, through selection for aggressive performance, we have in fact been consistently selecting for very specific abnormalities in the brain. These abnormalities appear in many breeds of dog as an accident
or anomaly, which breeders then attempt to breed out of the dogs. In the case of the aggressive breeds, the opposite was true. Rather than excluding abnormally aggressive dogs
from their breeding stock, breeders focused on creating lineages in which all the dogs would carry these genes (i.e., dogs which would reliably exhibit the desired impulsive aggressive behavior). They succeeded. Now that we know exactly which brain abnormalities breeders have been selecting, the assertion that this aggression is not heritable is no longer tenable. It is also not tenable to assert that not all the dogs of these breeds will carry these genes. The lack may occur as an accident where selection has failed, just as the golden retriever may have
the genes due to failing selection against the genes. But the failure to have the gene is, in the aggressive breeds, just that – a failure. It is therefore misleading to assert that the aggressive breeds will only have the selected genes as a matter of accident, or that most of them will be
fit to interact safely with other animals and humans. We have selected intensively for these genes in these breeds, for hundreds of years, and the accident that may incidentally occur is lack of the selected genes”
6/25/2014 6:05:02 AM · 77 of 99
kanawa to ransomnote
Lovely little expression of your wisdom on that thread.
“As I’ve said, having debated pit bull owners/supporters for pages and pages of FR posts, I now realize that death toll is just fine with pit bull owners...They object to any attempt by the public to use laws to reduce the death toll...want the rest of us to shut up and get used to dogs killing and eating babies
I assume you still hold that position?
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Yes. I don’t always include a qualifier stating that I am focusing on the advocates for these dogs, the ones that basically say “So stats show pits kill more people than all other non-pit breeds combined? Tsk tsk tsk. Bad owners. But any attempt to control the problem is unfair, unAmerican and since no plan to stop the bloodshed is fair, let’s talk about something else, like this picture of my pit licking an infant’s face!”
I’ve been on too many threads where a grisly child fatality is the OP of the thread and the pit advocates show up and post photos of their baby or children playing with pits as if saying “See! My dog hasn’t killed my children yet! That means I am a better owner!” I’ve seen those kinds of posts on many many threads of maulings and killings by pit. The denials and disinterest on the part of pit advocates has convinced me, their ownership means something special to them, the think it’s someone else’s problem, and the gory stats just do.not.count.
>>If I saw it when my kids were small I might examine my options always keeping in mind that protecting my family is my first job.<<
A friend has a 12 gauge Mossberg that sits in her umbrella stand by the front door. It has a plastic umbrella with the hand grip removed shoved into the barrel. It is impossible to tell that it isn’t just another umbrella.
Baseless assertion?
I spoke with Lisa Norwood of San Antonio Animal Services.
She was present at the scene, she saw the dead dogs.
She told me what she saw.
Call her up yourself nimrod, if you don’t believe me.
I passed that info to dogsbite.org
along with Lisa Norwood’s name and telephone number
so they could independently verify the information.
They did not respond to any of my emails.
To this day they continue to list the attack as being by 2 ‘pit bulls’.
If you want to stick your fingers in your ears, go La LA LA
and deny this is factual and meaningful information,
then you demonstrate you have neither intelligence nor integrity.
Which would explain your loyalty to dogsbite.org.
Woof!
You are a pathetic liar.
Let's have the names.
Which Freepers are fine with people getting killed by dogs?
Which Freepers object to any attempt to use laws to reduce the death toll?
Which Freepers want people to get use to dogs killing and eating babies?
Prove it or retract it, worm.
Wait wait wait. You’re forgetting. A key tenet of the pit bull advocate religion is that animal control officers are not qualified to identify a pit bull. You know, when pit nutters say that authorities are always falsely identifying pits (it’s a conspiracy don’t cha know!) Now that one person has told you they don’t agree with the identification and that person is an animal control officer, well then everything is different isn’t it? Forget what anyone else says, there’s a voice of dissent present that suits pit advocate objectives.
I just explained, by their posts you will know them. Countless posts by people who ignore the bleeding baby in the room and rage that their snookems might lick you to death and it’s all a conspiracy of lies.
Giving a cat a pill is another thing completely. My brother is a vet and he has shown me how to do that, it is a bit more complicated.
Please, keep talking. You’re almost there. The Edge is just ahead.
Just a little further and you too will be making profound statements such as this...
“Media manipulation is their watchword, their attempts to give their mutants a make over can not hide the evil in their eyes nor the moral stench that exudes from their being, pit bulls are one of satan’s more natural creations, a set of horns and pitchfork would have been a far more appropriate visual reality presentation then the cute pitty poo farcical misrepresentations they present to the public.”
That deserves to be formatted properly...
Media manipulation is their watchword,
their attempts to give their mutants a make over can not hide the evil in their eyes nor the moral stench that exudes from their being,
pit bulls are one of satan’s more natural creations,
a set of horns and pitchfork would have been
a far more appropriate visual reality presentation
then the cute pitty poo farcical misrepresentations they present to the public.
When Dobermans were the attack dog d’jur, the breed was nearly destroyed. Dobermans are much less popular these days because their temperment has been dulled through several generations of selective breeding. They arent the same dog they once were. Pitbulls, on the other hand, have not had that kind of selective breeding. the breed, unfortunately, suffers from its own popularity just as the Doberman and the GSD once did. That being said, I stand by my comment that bad dog owners and bad dog breeders are to blamed for the majority of pit bull attacks.
Besides, I can resist the VS easier than I can the cheese. ;)
What a ridiculous statistic.
80% of shelter dogs are pits or pit mixes.
That speaks to the gangster element that breeds them for a quick buck and then abandons them.
That is absolutely brilliant!
I rely on cream cheese to give Odin his Soloxine but my PPM, Gypsy, does *not* like cream cheese at all and she is a horror to medicate when necessary.
She does, however, like meat and the sausages might work!
Thank you so much for sharing that with me.
It’s sure to be easier than holding her on my lap and shoving a pill down her gullet, forcibly..:D
If you cannot see the metaphorical irony, I can’t help you.
Well, yeah, you would, what with those ferocious beasts of yours, and all.
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When I knew I had to give my dog a pill everyday, I would leave the cheese out of the refrig and the soft cheese was easy to mash around the pill.
If you want to know how to give a cat a pill, let me know.
:)
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