Posted on 04/25/2014 12:29:18 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group
This wasn’t the first time it has been brought up, it’s been going around for a couple of weeks, at least. And it’s not the first time it has been discussed.
Shortly after the ‘09 tax increase went into effect it was known pipe tobacco was going to be next on the list because of the changes made in the roll/stuff your own supplies to avoid the huge increase.
/johnny
When it comes to tobacco the FDA does not deal in fact and never has and that goes for the rest of the federal government (and most state government.)
/johnny
/johnny
*scratches head*
My wife and mother-in-law use Lizard Juice brand equipment and juice. They both have the device on a lanyard that they keep around their neck. I’ve seen the batteries and the tanks used as cat toys, and one of the batteries has visible teeth marks from where one of our big boys turned it into a chew toy. It still works great.
My brother, his girlfriend, and my mom all use a special e-cig with a special wick. They’re built like tanks and quite heavy. My brother is in construction and has dropped his device from the balcony of a 4-story condo, and it still worked.
I’m not sure what e-cigs you’re using or to which you’re referring, but the ones I’ve seen are quite hardy.
The only “regulation” I would get behind would be to put an age limit on them. I’ve seen high school kids puffing on them at the beach like they’re candy. They’re not supposed to be a recreational toy, they’re intended to be smoking cessation devices. Make it illegal to purchase or use under the age of 18, fine, but don’t tax the devices and liquids. That’s just dumb.
Nicotine, as of right now, is not a controlled substance. You can buy 5 gallon drums of liquid nicotine with cash out the door. The flavoring is added later, and many people have made a boatload of money concocting custom flavors. My brother was a “tester” for a guy developing flavors that are now available online.
Full disclosure: I don’t use e-cigs. I’ve never smoked a cigarette in my life. I enjoy an occasional cigar or pipe, but they’re very rare occasions. I am happy these things work as well as they do. I’ve heard resounding praise for them, as people everywhere are kicking the cigarette habit. I think that’s the real threat here. The government is watching their cash cow wither away, yet, isn’t this what they wanted? They’ve been pushing anti-smoking for decades. Now that people are quitting, they’re freaking out.
Government is more proud than they are smart.
My point somehow got lost. You are correct. Ecigs, especially those produced by small vendors, are reasonably hardy. Mine has even been run over by my car, and is still functioning. The ones they sell at 7-11 aren’t, however. One of the goals of regulation will be to drive the smaller vendors out of business. This will leave only a handful of large companies left, and their business model is based around disposable devices.
The goal of regulation is to leave the industry in which ecigs are as ineffective as NRTs, and where ecigs are taxable (industry standardization, only pre-filled cartridges, etc).
Essentially that’s already done. I don’t know any vendors that will knowingly sell to minors. I’ve asked for photo ID to be sent to me before filling orders at times. The most telling is when someone asks for non-descript packaging (to possibly hide it from their parents).
They are going to slip that in after they rally support for E-cig regulation.
They will attach it to what will have little opposition, when that huge tax increase was their real goal.
“Two bills recently introduced in Congress would substantially increase federal excise taxes on tobacco products, and probably allow the imposition of new federal excise taxes on e-cigarettes.”
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