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Posted on 04/05/2014 3:41:07 AM PDT by markomalley
You were the one that implied that carbohydrate calories and fat calories were the ‘same’ metabolically as adjuged by the calorie content labels.
Only silly people think fat is metabolized just like carbohydrates.
Or someone who never had, or passed, highschool chemistry. The rest of us understand that our metabolisms don’t resemble test tubes in a laboratory.
But please, continue to eat your high carb all GMO diet and please please pretty please feed it to your spouse, children and grandchildren. Do it for the rest of us! Promise!?
BTW, I low carb right now. I consume FIVE HUNDRED calories a day MORE than I did when I was low fat dieting. I also weigh EIGHTY POUNDS LESS.
Go figure. Instead of black coffee with splenda at breakfast with a low fat/low calorie granola bar I now have coffee with whole cream, 2 egg omelette cooked in BUTTER and folded over 2oz of CHEESE! for breakfast. What riches!
The rest of the day an it’s dietary differences is pretty much the same.
Try it sometimes.
BTW, my cholesterol went down 40%, my LDL halved and my HDL nearly doubled. With NO meds! My BP was 105/75 the last time it was checked (was 140/95 on the low fat diet and low sodium as well) and my A1C runs below 5 (it was 13+ when it was first tested, while I was low fat dieting).
Try that with your high carb/low fat diet sometimes.
Oh yeah. My triglycerides were...wait for it...20.
Nothing, what does the human body have to do with the first law of thermodynamics?
The body isn't a calorimeter as another poster stated. It treats the two nutrients differently. Ingested fat and protein do not trigger an immediate insulin reaction.
Do you really believe that insulin being released is responsible for people becoming fat?
Yes, the immediate release is when the body starts storing excess glucose in the body's fat cells. Sugar requires virtually no digestion, and quickly enters the bloodstream.
Everyone knows people are getting a ton of excess glucose. Fat does not trigger an instant insulin reaction. Good grief.
Yes, it is indeed grievous how many people are morbidly obese and diabetic because of this.
I've already stated that there are different pathways and differing efficiencies for fat, carbohydrates, and amino acids. Just because you have a slow metabolism doesn't mean you can defy thermodynamics. This has absolutely nothing to do with a laboratory test tube. A calorie is a measure of the amount of energy. This is how it is defined and it is always the same no matter what. But you knew that already, right? If not, then maybe you should have paid better attention in class, or you should have taken more advanced courses.
Your fear of GMO foods is the height of irrational behavior, but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by the reactions of such an emotional person.
I'm not on a high carb, low fat diet by the way. I'm on a diet that practices moderation, and involves regular exercise. I have no cholesterol issues and my ratios are the envy of my MD. BP is fine and passed my last stress test without any concerns. Having stellar genes is a blessing.
The Pima Indians of northern Mexico live on a diet high in carbohydrates, especially the high GI kind. The Pima Indians living in Arizona exist on a diet high in protein and fat, with very little in the way of carbohydrates. Even so, the Pima Indians for Arizona weigh significantly more than their Mexican relatives (50 lbs. +), and they suffer from a very high incidence of diabetes as well. Not so with the Mexican Pima's. Since they share the same genetics, one would conclude that diet and exercise play a critical role. Same as it ever was.
Healthy people, living long and healthy lives, while existing on a diet high in carbohydrates. Not unlike many Asian populations. Go figure.
Well, for those of us who can’t tolerate the ‘official’ high carbohydrate low protein diet the very idea that it’s the ‘official standard’ is abhorrent. For most people it’s a death sentence. But not before you’ve spent gazillions of dollars on meds and surgeries trying to stay alive.
I suspect that was the whole intention of that ‘official diet’ to begin with.
A healthy population would never have accepted government control over medical care to the extent it has.
I’m not a Pima Indian. The Pima in Arizona eat refined carbs.
The diabetes numbers for Asia are shocking. Let’s talk India, shall we?
Do you eat GMO food and feed it to your family?
Yes or no.
If you don’t you’re a huge hypocrit. I, personally, hope you do! Please do.
Just reassure me that you eat GMO corn, and soy. And feed it to your loved ones.
Can you do that for me? I need a pick me up this evening! :)
High carb diets are a death sentence for native Americans.
Maybe you hate Native Americans?
Let’s talk the Pine Ridge reservation. Its inhabitants are either t1d, t2d or will be.
A great deal if you believe that you won't gain weight by consuming more energy than you burn, as long as it's done with the right macronutrient ratio. That's nothing but a fantasy for scientific illiterates.
The body isn't a calorimeter as another poster stated. It treats the two nutrients differently.
You're stating the obvious now, so that's progress.
The key purpose of insulin is to aid in breaking down carbs by driving it into the cells so it can be metabolized. The insulin response drives the sugar into the cells. Are you saying that it drives it into fat instead? That's not how it works. I said this before but it obviously didn't make an impact, when you consume carbohydrates, what's needed for immediate energy is taken and the rest is converted to glycogen, which is stored in the liver and muscles. If the glycogen reserves are full then, and only then, will it be converted to fat. This is why a guy like Michael Phelps can eat 12,000 calories a day, mostly carbs, and not get fat, because he is constantly replacing glycogen.
Many things can cause your insulin to spike. If what you're saying is true, then people who consume a great deal of caffeine should be getting obese and suffering from diabetes too. Since caffeine causes insulin to spike, which chases blood glucose into the cells, then people who drink a lot of caffeine should be suffering the same effects as those who consume large amounts of carbs. What evidence do you have that people who drink a lot of coffee or tea are also becoming obese and suffering disproportionately from diabetes?
I don't think you understand the metabolization of carbohydrates which is why you say such things.
Which isn't much, unless you are an athlete.
and the rest is converted to glycogen, which is stored in the liver and muscles. If the glycogen reserves are full
Which is frequent in the fat-American lifestyle
then, and only then, will it be converted to fat.
VIOLA and Bingo!
You're starting to get it.
No one is forcing you to eat a diet that doesn't agree with your physiology. Stop whining.
For most people it’s a death sentence. But not before you’ve spent gazillions of dollars on meds and surgeries trying to stay alive.
Death sentence? Because you say it is? ROFL. Hyperbole much? How you manage to get out of bed in the morning with all that fear in your head is a mystery.
Over the past century, the only macronutrient to consistently increase in our diet is fat. At the beginning of the 20th century, almost 60% of our total calories came from carbohydrates, with much of that being from white four - you know, one of those processed carbohydrate that's a death sentence. Yet, despite this absurd belief of yours from that fever swamp of your imagination, people back then weren't obese and didn't suffer from the many metabolic afflictions that come from being obese. How is that possible when so much of their diet involved processed white flour, otherwise known by you as the white death?
Even in Japan, obesity is a fairly new phenomenon. So are the diseases that result from obesity. The Japanese have enjoyed a high carb diet for thousands of years without being obese or suffering from high rates of diabetes. Same with India.
Even though you're not a Pima Indian, you can appreciate the fact that when two genetically similar groups are compared, it's the ones eating lots of fat and protein that are suffering from obesity and diabetes, while the group with the high carb diet isn't. It's just more proof that what you believe to be true is loony tunes.
Native Americans have a big problem with alcohol, too, because they do not possess an abundance of one particular enzyme. I'd guess that if they consume too much alcohol, they're going to experience some health issues. Same with a celiac and gluten, or someone with PKU and phenylalanine. The list could go on and on....but what does this have to do with the fact that if you want to lose weight, you need to burn more energy than you consume?
I'm going to explain it to you like I did my third-grader:
Yes, it's really that simple. Now, are you as smart as a third-grader?
Too bad you lie to your children, they will probably be obese as a result.
You should apologize to the other posters on this thread who also lost weight by using this diet.
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My total cholesterol is 125. Yours?
If you read a book about human nutrition, you will learn that for the vast majority of people, genetics is what determines your cholesterol levels.
Having good genes has a huge impact on your health and longevity.
Since you're so hot to defend it, why don't you just explain to us the absolute nutritional value of junk food.
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