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Ouch! Manchester United draw Champions League holders Bayern Munich in quarter-finals
mancunianmatters.co.uk ^ | 21 Mar 2014 | Tom Pilcher

Posted on 03/21/2014 5:03:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: kevkrom

I see two things when I look at Moyes’ United:

1) 19th Century tactics (hoof it to the byline, cross, and hope)
2) Players who don’t buy in. It’s just that simple. Watching them get beat by Liverpool last week, I saw a team that tuned out the first time things went bad. Alex Ferguson would NEVER have allowed that. He’d have changed out the entire team. Too often, they don’t play for Moyes, old men or not.


41 posted on 03/21/2014 11:56:04 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Yeah, I remember seeing Chelsea mail in performance like that earlier this year, back in the fall. I swear I wouldn’t have been surprised to see Mourinho start an entirely different 11 for the next match, and if he had to have submitted the lineup right then, I imagine he would have.


42 posted on 03/21/2014 11:58:26 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: dfwgator

SAF excelled at getting more out of his players than any British manager since Bill Shankly, in my view. He was an elite man-manager and there’s no way this team would be seventh in the Premiership if he were managing it. They might not win it but they wouldn’t be 18 points adrift.

I said from the beginning that Jose Mourinho should have gotten the United job and everyone knows he wanted it. If you don’t have the firepower up front you need a backbone and tactical knowledge, both things that Mourinho possesses in spades.


43 posted on 03/21/2014 11:58:35 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
SAF excelled at getting more out of his players than any British manager since Bill Shankly

You mean since Brian Clough.

44 posted on 03/21/2014 12:01:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Clough would be another one.

My favorite Shankly quote: “Take that bandage off. And what do you mean YOUR knee? It’s Liverpool’s knee!”


45 posted on 03/21/2014 12:21:29 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I thought “The Damned United” badly misrepresented Clough.


46 posted on 03/21/2014 12:24:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I wonder if say next year if the team gets off to a poor start, does Fergie come back?


47 posted on 03/21/2014 12:25:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Berlin_Freeper
David Moyes heckled by Grim Reaper
48 posted on 03/22/2014 2:12:12 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (No More Bushes, No More Clintons, No more Pauls!)
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Wayne Rooney calls on Manchester United to rediscover their attacking ‘DNA’
49 posted on 03/22/2014 2:15:39 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (No More Bushes, No More Clintons, No more Pauls!)
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Robin Van Persie hat-trick fires Manchester United to Champions League comeback over Olympiakos

Manchester United blow as Robin van Persie ruled out for 4-6 weeks

50 posted on 03/22/2014 2:19:07 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (No More Bushes, No More Clintons, No more Pauls!)
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To: dfwgator

The book or the movie?

The movie is much different than the book. In the movie, Clough is a hero. The Clough family did not like the book where Clough basically makes alcoholic-like ramblings and unfortunately, he did suffer from alcoholism I’d say.

Peter Taylor was Brian Clough’s right-hand man and when Clough was most successful, Derby and Forest, Peter Taylor was there. While Peter Taylor was not at Leeds Utd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Taylor_%28footballer_born_1928%29

They also played together at Middlesbrough, Clough back in the day got his knee all torn up and couldn’t return to playing functionally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Clough#Playing_career

And unfortunately, if one wanted to say something disparaging on him, if one websearches “Clough” and “Socialism”, you’d probably come up with a lot of hits though he was probably for it for the Miners of the UK. Clough also said some politically incorrect things that nowadays, might be seen as sounding racist.

This book is probably where to start on him http://www.amazon.co.uk/Provided-You-Dont-Kiss-Me/dp/0007247109 , a journalist who came to know Clough well and Clough sort of took under his wing wrote it.


51 posted on 03/22/2014 7:17:33 AM PDT by BeadCounter (morning glory evening grace)
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You are right in that the movie was a bit more sympathetic to Clough than the book.


52 posted on 03/22/2014 7:29:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Short primer on why Arsenal won’t win the BPL:

MCY 6-2 ARS
LIV 5-1 ARS
CHE 6-0 ARS


53 posted on 03/22/2014 8:06:26 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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Piers Morgan is deeply saddened.

Typical hypocrite to be anti-gun and root for the “Gunners”.


54 posted on 03/22/2014 8:08:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Just finished watching Chelsea manhandled Arsenal 6-0
55 posted on 03/22/2014 8:11:04 AM PDT by mware
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A great El Classico going on right now.


56 posted on 03/23/2014 2:34:41 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Thanks dfwgator!


57 posted on 03/23/2014 2:38:25 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (No More Bushes, No More Clintons, No more Pauls!)
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