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Towns Say 'No Tanks' to Militarized Police
Wall Street Journal ^ | February 6, 2014 | JENNIFER LEVITZ CONNECT

Posted on 02/20/2014 7:51:31 AM PST by Altariel

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To: Noumenon

We’re gonna have to drink more wine.


21 posted on 02/20/2014 9:11:45 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: crazydad; tanknetter; Travis McGee
We are not in Baghdad. We are in American cities..

Have you seen Detroit?
Have you seen Camden?
Have you seen Los Angeles?
Have you seen East St. Louis?
Do you remember Miami?
Do you remember New Orleans?
Do you remember Sandy?

It has happened before. It is happening now. And when it happens tomorrow, they will come at you in these vehicles.

22 posted on 02/20/2014 9:14:11 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Altariel; null and void

There MAY be some PD’s refusing them, but there are more accepting them - eagerly:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/23/pentagon-giving-away-13k-mraps-free-allies-local-l/

http://whowhatwhy.com/2014/02/17/police-state-gears-up/

http://www.dvidshub.net/news/120494/guard-soldiers-train-clovis-police-department-units-newly-acquired-mrap-vehicles#.UwSqO701VwQ

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57358599-78/police-program-utah-1033.html.csp

http://www.harborcountry-news.com/articles/2014/01/31/news/doc52d6a72b30ea9657912899.txt

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/government/cherokee-nation-marshals-given-rugged-emergency-truck-through-pentagon-program/article_1470643f-80c2-544b-af41-03d47385deb0.html

http://banning-beaumont.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/update-councilman-blasts-police-acquisition-of-mrap-vehicle-city-manager-not-happy


23 posted on 02/20/2014 9:19:07 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Altariel

“saying recent mass shootings show any local force could find itself facing an extremely violent or dangerous situation.”

Against what, one or two crazy people, a couple of kids,
two or three CAIR people? This is BS. This is the arming
of jackboots, nothing more.


24 posted on 02/20/2014 9:20:58 AM PST by Slambat
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25 posted on 02/20/2014 9:22:24 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Billthedrill

Given my preference for fine single malt scotch, that’s going to take a while and cost a bit more.

Well, it’s said that it’s the journey that counts.

Slainte!


26 posted on 02/20/2014 9:23:48 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Altariel

The real action is going to have to happen at state level, with “police de-paramilitarization laws”.

The first part of the law gives the state governor and attorney general the authority to prescribe what equipment police departments in the state are allowed to have and use.

Equipment outside of this list, unless granted special waivers by the state for special needs, must be turned over to their respective county Sheriff for storage and safekeeping. (This is a necessary requirement for those who argue that the police departments might need it in the future.) And it can only be used either by the Sheriff’s office, or for a limited time and use based on the written warrant of a country judge. Likewise, no police agency below the level of county Sheriff can have or use a SWAT team.

The second part of this law prohibits all direct contact between city police departments and the federal government, in either direction. This means grants from the feds, of money and/or equipment, and information exchange, must go through the state. In the case for requests for cooperation, they can only happen through their respective county Sheriff’s office, with their acquiescence.

The third part of the law is to change the curriculum of the state police academies, so there is minimal SWAT training, moving in the direction of civilian, not paramilitary, policing.


27 posted on 02/20/2014 9:24:09 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Old Sarge

Heard about Houston?
Heard about Detroit?
Heard about Pittsburgh, PA?
You oughta know not to stand by the window
Somebody might see you up there


28 posted on 02/20/2014 9:26:40 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You speak of laws in a lawless regime.


29 posted on 02/20/2014 9:27:32 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: granite

They had to hit a Ford because the GMC was broke down.
Some armored vehicle, flat tire. The Ford looks like it
could drive away.


30 posted on 02/20/2014 9:27:47 AM PST by Slambat
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To: null and void

“Burn them.

We will.”

Most people don’t know how easy it is.


31 posted on 02/20/2014 9:29:57 AM PST by Slambat
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To: Old Sarge

“Have you seen Detroit?
Have you seen Camden?
Have you seen Los Angeles?
Have you seen East St. Louis?
Do you remember Miami?
Do you remember New Orleans?
Do you remember Sandy?”

Nothing an armed citizenry cant handle.


32 posted on 02/20/2014 9:32:06 AM PST by Slambat
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

“That gear is as close to being in the hands of the people as it could possibly be without giving it directly to the people.”

Yep, I agree. And easier to get to AND BURN.


33 posted on 02/20/2014 9:37:38 AM PST by Slambat
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To: DJ MacWoW

Looks like a great opportunity for someone with a balloon filled with red paint.


34 posted on 02/20/2014 9:41:19 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: tanknetter

They are not “Free” FRiend.


35 posted on 02/20/2014 9:43:06 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Slambat
Nothing an armed citizenry cant handle.

That is exactly what these things are meant to suppress.

36 posted on 02/20/2014 9:48:57 AM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Slambat

Most people don’t know that dissolving a little Styrofoam into the gasoline makes it sticky.


37 posted on 02/20/2014 9:49:05 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: Altariel
... the Department of Homeland Security have been funding BearCats and other heavily fortified vehicles in towns and cities nationwide since soon after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

Serious question:

Are there any stories of local police departments using this equipment successfully to save lives in situations where other more traditional gear would not have worked?

38 posted on 02/20/2014 9:50:29 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: null and void

The Marines in Fallujah were reported to be using a mixture of one part liquid laundry detergent, two parts gasoline. I read that in Wikipedia.


39 posted on 02/20/2014 9:53:57 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Noumenon

40 posted on 02/20/2014 9:55:00 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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