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Validation of Electrical Power Generation by Second - Generation CIHT Technology
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry Rowan University, Glassboro, NJ, ^ | N ovember, 2011 _ | K.V. Ramanujachary

Posted on 01/23/2014 12:42:27 PM PST by Kevmo

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1 posted on 01/23/2014 12:42:27 PM PST by Kevmo
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles


http://lenr-canr.org/

Vortex-L
http://tinyurl.com/pxtqx3y


2 posted on 01/23/2014 12:43:09 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: All; y'all; Ping; et al

Interesting discussion on Vortex-L

———————————www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg89246.html————————

RE: [Vo]:Mill’s theory behind the hydrino

Jones Beene Thu, 23 Jan 2014 08:57:22 -0800

From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe

Also if there any serious issues with his math I would like to know, else he
deserves respect, with or without the hydrino.

He is a brilliant thinker, yet the great disappointment in Mills (from most
of us on this forum) has been in is his failure to deliver, as an
experimentalist. He has not lived up to his claims and there is a level of
dishonesty which shows through. IOW his theory does not make predictions
which have led to real devices, at least not in the past but he insists that
they have.

For instance, there was an early charge of plagiarism in the first versions
of the theory, but it was in details which were not greatly relevant. In
fact, it was bulk plagiarism of the cut-and-paste variety - and it was
quickly removed from later versions.

However, the most telling historical issue for me in the Mills story is that
several of his early co-authors, all PhDs - moved on to other jobs, often
lesser paying jobs in Academia.

That would be unheard of in a situation where the staff really thought that
a major breakthrough in Physics was eminent. I think that they were
disillusioned about the growing gap between what was “on paper” in the
theory - and what was turning up in the Laboratory.

I have not the least doubt that Mills experiments have resulted in
radioactive ash, and that he has hidden this from the public, and the R&D
staff was sworn to silence.

Finding even tiny amounts of radioactive ash is absolutely devastating to
Mills in the IP arena. It can, and will, cost him millions, possibly
billions . and he has dug himself into a hole on the issue - since it keeps
him from actual 3rd party independent testing without incredible NDAs. There
is not a single true replication of his work without these restrictions.

The fractional hydrogen redundancy reaction can be described as one which is
a predecessor state to LENR, in my estimation - and Mills is powerless to do
anything to change that basic fact - other than to hide it, since it kills
his IP.

This kind of thing really turns off young PhDs who want to dig for the whole
truth.

Jones


3 posted on 01/23/2014 12:45:59 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Inch by inch, step by step, we get a little closer every day.


5 posted on 01/23/2014 12:48:07 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (I forgot what my tagline was supposed to say)
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“The cell used nontoxic , earth - abundant commodity chemicals,”

I like how they use environmentalism to help sell the scam.


6 posted on 01/23/2014 1:34:11 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo

It seems that Jones Beene’s concerns have been addressed by this validation memo


7 posted on 01/23/2014 1:39:49 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: UCANSEE2

You never know. The Prince Philip cult actually got to meet the object of their worship in spite of being deluded fools.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip_Movement


8 posted on 01/23/2014 1:40:47 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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The hot-fusion boys used similar language in their scam. The difference is that maybe cold fusion accounts for $60M, but hot fusion accounts for %600B in their scam, 4 orders of magnitude worse. Do we see skeptopaths generating 4 orders of magnitude more invective on hot-fusion threads? Nope. Because fraud isn’t really their concern.


9 posted on 01/23/2014 1:57:55 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Sounds too good to be true.....therefore....

Almost like free energy.
Not going to hold my breath.


10 posted on 01/23/2014 4:45:16 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: nvscanman

So you think that a

Professor
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
Rowan University

is a crackpot or made mistakes in his validation?


11 posted on 01/23/2014 4:47:55 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

No way of knowing if he is exaggerating,lying, mistaken or angling for
research $$$. The claims made are extraordinary....approaching the
“free energy/perpetual motion” territory. Extraordinary claims require
extraordinary proof. Till multiple independent competent research
facilities corroborate and successfully duplicate these results they are
to be considered unproven.


12 posted on 01/23/2014 5:11:56 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: nvscanman

He’s most likely “angling for
research $$$”.

The claims made are not all that extraordinary in the light of 14,700 replications of the P-F Anomalous Heat Event.


13 posted on 01/23/2014 5:16:26 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: nvscanman

As far as I can tell Black Light paid this professor for his signature on a piece of paper that resides at Black Light, not Rowan University as the OP would have us believe. Furthermore, this little piece of cargo cult science took place over two years ago. You’d think that huge amounts of power from cheap water would have overtaken the markets by now.


14 posted on 01/23/2014 7:21:12 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

As I said.....I’m not holding my breath.


15 posted on 01/23/2014 8:43:56 PM PST by nvscanman
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You’d think that huge amounts of power from cheap water would have overtaken the markets by now.
***Then the same concept applies to controlled-hot-fusion. You’d think that Mr. Fusion boxes would have overtaken markets by now.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 2:42:44 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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If only Rossi had been working on hot fusion........


17 posted on 01/24/2014 4:59:16 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Rossi could learn a thing or two about running cons from the Controlled-Hot-Fusion (CHF) boys. His corner-turn is a couple of years; theirs has always been 50 years. He’s supposedly “conned” guvmints of a few million per your assertion; they’ve conned our guvmint of hundreds of $Billions. He has to turn over IP, actually have something to sell; they’ve produced zero IP to sell. Yup, those CHF frauds are far better con artists than Rossi ever could be.


18 posted on 02/04/2014 12:08:23 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
Rossi could learn a thing or two about running cons from the Controlled-Hot-Fusion (CHF) boys.

Right, because no one has ever seen useful amounts of energy produced by fusion.

19 posted on 02/04/2014 5:56:06 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Kevmo

What does Jennifer think about this article?


20 posted on 02/05/2014 1:20:57 PM PST by TexasGator
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