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1 posted on 01/04/2014 2:41:29 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Now, some might say that this proves women aren’t strong. Hogwash. Women are very strong. To give just one important example, more than 100 million women give birth each and every year. It is an impressive feat of strength. Women also nurse their babies, which is fraught with problems ranging from mastitis to thrush. Women display physical strength in many ways, from athletic prowess to working jobs requiring them to be on their feet all day.

Just imagine the war applications there!

I'm not getting anything.

34 posted on 01/04/2014 3:15:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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Project Lioness: Lioness presents the untold story of the first group of women soldiers in US history to be sent into direct ground combat, in violation of official policy. Told through intimate accounts, journal excerpts, archive footage, as well as interviews with military commanders, the film follows five women who served together for a year in Iraq. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1202749/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1202749/
35 posted on 01/04/2014 3:17:00 PM PST by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
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rationalizing failure


37 posted on 01/04/2014 3:17:59 PM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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BUT women are not strong WHERE IT COUNTS when on the battlefield.

I LOVE women. I am a heterosexual 66 year old man.

I am glad I am a man.

I would hate to go through a monthly menstruation cycle, with accompanying cramps and bleeding. I wouldn't want to share a tent or foxhole with one that is going through that.

When a man and a woman have that first time "in the sack", it is the woman that experiences pain and discomfort, and we men can just lay back and think how great it was. I wouldn't want the temptation around me on the battlefield.

I doubt I could withstand the pain of childbirth. I don't like to stub my toe. I don't want my battlefield partner getting pregnant so she can go home.

I fathered four children, but the mom is the "go to" when our children have a problem and need a little nurturing. We dads are supposed to be the disciplinarians, and feared (I realize that is not a universal truth).

I would never want to rely on a woman on the battlefield. I am 5'10" and at my prime was around 165 lbs. A 110-120lb. woman could likely not remove my body, whether I am dead or alive.

I love women. My wife is now also my business partner. She can do things I can't do, and has many useful skills. BUT, she always calls on me for lifting the heavy stuff!

39 posted on 01/04/2014 3:19:02 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Today, doesn't it seem like we have a Corrupt Bastards Club in D.C.? On steroids?" -Sarah Palin)
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Google “youtube Marine M777 fire for effect” and watch those Marines put ten rounds down range in slightly over 2 minutes and tell me upper body strength doesn’t count. Watch any arty fire for effect. Watch any real life video of Marines dragging wounded and tell me strength doesn’t count.

Tankers were always the biggest guys in the regiment, not because they could carry their work out equipment on the tank, but because they had some heavy, heavy work to do.

An army general recently said that the days of Rambo are over. My dying butt. Watch these guys kicking in doors, hauling ammo, humping heavy loads. IT MATTERS!

I will never forget how much that stuff kicked my butt. Never lessen the standards, if anything, make them tougher.


45 posted on 01/04/2014 3:22:52 PM PST by rey
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Now, some might say that this proves women aren’t strong. Hogwash. Women are very strong. To give just one important example, more than 100 million women give birth each and every year. It is an impressive feat of strength...

Methinks Mollie Hemingway doesn't quite grasp that the definition of "strong" depends on context.
Her dishonesty in conflating the many definitions, and tapdancing around or (ignoring) the specific "strength" being addressed, made her entire opinion rather useless.

Yes, I admit that in tests of physical strength requiring "work" in the physics sense, there are many women stronger than I but that does not make rendering a physical strength standard useless in certain professions and applications because it's not politically correct.

47 posted on 01/04/2014 3:23:14 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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>> Hogwash. Women are very strong.

Egos don’t win battles nor wars.


51 posted on 01/04/2014 3:32:04 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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This: Mollie
was all I needed to see
56 posted on 01/04/2014 3:37:15 PM PST by tomkat
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Women, in large part, do not have the bone structure, muscle density, natural aggressiveness to be effective combat soldiers. Of course you can find exceptions, but men, by a great margin, have these attributes much more abundantly than women.

Women physically have and will break at rates that will degrade unit effectiveness. This does not even address the mental differences between men and women which are also very considerable.

Men and women are different. Treating them the same is a waste of resources and does not enhance unit effectiveness.


60 posted on 01/04/2014 3:45:20 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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I went to a high school basketball game this afternoon. The school I was rooting for only has about 500 kids. Our team's star is a 10th grader. He dunked 3 times in the game.

Last year there was quite a media hubbub over a WNBA player who dunked twice in a game.

One has to be delusional to expect even freakishly athletic women to compare well to an ordinarily athletic man.

64 posted on 01/04/2014 3:52:50 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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And it doesn’t prove that men are physically superior in every way.

Let's bring it down to reality. In a ne-on-one combat situation, can she prevail? I wouldn't want to be in a rifle squad where she is the weak link.

"For want of a nail, the shoe was lost; for want of a shoe . . . " etc.

65 posted on 01/04/2014 3:53:42 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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Sad. The way Obama’s hand-picked Joint Chiefs and SecDef have tried to wussiefy our military services.

I wonder what the physical capability requirements are for the Israeli women who serve in the IDF?


66 posted on 01/04/2014 3:55:26 PM PST by octex
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Men are stronger than women. This is a scientific fact. Women are more resistant to pain than men. This is a scientific fact. An efficiently run army would make use of this. A honorable army would keep women out of combat. "All societies are based on rules to protect pregnant women and young children. All else is surplusage, excrescence, adornment, luxury, or folly, which can — and must — be dumped in emergency to preserve this prime function. As racial survival is the only universal morality, no other basic is possible. Attempts to formulate a "perfect society" on any foundation other than "Women and children first!" is not only witless, it is automatically genocidal. Nevertheless, starry-eyed idealists (all of them male) have tried endlessly — and no doubt will keep on trying." -- Robert Heinlein
78 posted on 01/04/2014 5:05:27 PM PST by spiritplumber
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This tw@t has obviously never come close to a combat situation.

Still, that doesn’t mean she can’t blather in an incoherent and ignorant way.

Gawd! Am I glad I served when I did.


79 posted on 01/04/2014 5:15:43 PM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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They are not strong. The annals of police history are crammed with their failures but nobody acknowledges them and everyone makes believe that the pain, death and suffering they bring about doesn’t matter.

An adult male is unconscious on the RR tracks? Girl cop arrives on scene first but...she is forced to wait for a real cop to arrive since she cannot lift or move the guy. Mad dog raping and murdering a woman in her home, girl cop arrives and....she is to weak to kick in the door and too plump and weak to clear a window of glass and go thru it, so she waits for the real cops who kick in the door and sort things out (chalk outline, bloodspatter)

Male female cop team arresting NYC ne’r do well inside his apt. Suspects girl asseses female portion of team and concludes that she can take her. She is right and she gets the girl cops gun and it is used on the 6’2” male portion of the team as he is the only threat present. Think of the possibilities and probabilities along these lines and it really boggles the mind.


80 posted on 01/04/2014 5:44:34 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To give just one important example, more than 100 million women give birth each and every year. It is an impressive feat of strength.

BS. The uterus, with no help from the mother, is contracting and opening the cervix on its own. The woman has no control or participation, just endurance of the pain. And the pushing is just pushing. It doesn't require strength, just enduring the pain and lasting until the job is over.

85 posted on 01/04/2014 6:24:37 PM PST by Lizavetta
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it doesn’t mean women aren’t strong-—
it means they aren’t strong enough!


91 posted on 01/05/2014 5:03:35 PM PST by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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