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Is there a way to internet without an ISP ?
self | December 14, 2013 | knarf

Posted on 12/14/2013 9:44:32 AM PST by knarf

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To: knarf

“Is there a way to protect internetconnect.com, 123 Main St., somewhere in the USA with patriots and machine guns and stuff?”

Yes, but your fictional company connects to the “backbone” of the internet through which all traffic travels. If the backbone is shut down it doesn’t matter if you have an ISP or not.


41 posted on 12/14/2013 10:07:43 AM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: central_va
Can you use the phone without a phone company?

Yep, if you run your own pbx. Downside is you can only call other phone lines within the PBX and not make outside calls.

/johnny

42 posted on 12/14/2013 10:10:15 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: knarf

An ISP provides Virtual or physical access to the world wide web. Virtual is like someone reselling another ISP’s service without their own infrastructure. Physical means you build your own infrastructure to access the world wide web. Anyone can be their own ISP but any and all ISPs can be blocked access and the world wide web can be shut down in fairly short order. That is the Reader’s Digest version.


43 posted on 12/14/2013 10:10:20 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: knarf

http://openmeshproject.org


44 posted on 12/14/2013 10:10:37 AM PST by bkopto
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To: max americana

lol. That, and Randy abusing his quota in camp for porn surfing.


45 posted on 12/14/2013 10:10:48 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: knarf

All ISPs buy access to the backbone via a larger bandwidth supplier, called a Tier One supplier. Current Tier 1 carriers include Level 3 Communications, CenturyLink, Vodafone, Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T Corporation. So you can see at this level it’s impossible to guarantee access to one ISP, since he’s likely only connected (indirectly or directly) to one Tier One, who can cut him off at any time.

When Obama has asked for an “internet kill switch”, that would be a way of cutting off all the Tier Ones with one act. Summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_kill_switch

The latest I see is that DHS is being forced to at least provide some level of visibilitly into the “kill switch” by the courts: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/13/homeland-security-must-disclose-internet-kill-swit/

This is the official story of course. Many insiders believe the capacity for a kill switch already exists and simply is hidden under the cloak of “national security”.

But there are probably any number of ways to force a Tier One to shut off one or many ISPs or portions of their network for any reason they dream up.


46 posted on 12/14/2013 10:10:57 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

If you use a Linux computer with MAC address spoofing on a public wifi network, you are almost impossible to track. But you may be committing a crime.

Note that MAC stands for Media Access Control, not Macintosh.


47 posted on 12/14/2013 10:10:58 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

yep


48 posted on 12/14/2013 10:11:04 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: knarf
Each ISP is a routing node
They are connected by other nodes to the Root Servers

Even if you are your own server / ISP
You connect to the Root Servers by way of more central nodes

Take out the Root Servers and you amputate the daughter nodes to those servers.


49 posted on 12/14/2013 10:11:06 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: usconservative
But yours was so exacting and instructional.

THAT was the kind of information I was looking for.

I'd have skipped right past yelling out the window, with a chuckle.

50 posted on 12/14/2013 10:11:28 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: mountn man

Very good definition.


51 posted on 12/14/2013 10:12:23 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: knarf

That would be a private network, not really internet. Internet is a network of networks.

Think of this: a company in NYC has a network in it’s office, a company in Sydney has a network in it’s office, these networks each connect to an ISP which is interconnected with other ISPs around the world, e-mail and so forth goes between NCY and Sydney by traversing these networked ISPs. That’s internet, a network of networks.


52 posted on 12/14/2013 10:12:40 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

I remember 9600 baud modems and Comp-U-Serve BBS in 1987-88.


53 posted on 12/14/2013 10:13:26 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: knarf

They can shut you down remotely with a few key strokes.


54 posted on 12/14/2013 10:13:37 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Red Steel

Well ... in reading that ... I can assure you, 99.99% have been discouraged from that route ... :-) ...


55 posted on 12/14/2013 10:14:34 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Red Steel

Can be shut down with a few keystrokes


56 posted on 12/14/2013 10:15:49 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: carriage_hill

96 was the new stuff ;)


57 posted on 12/14/2013 10:15:50 AM PST by Ray76
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To: knarf

You asked, “If The ISP’s are taken by the government, is there a way to use computers and the internet ?”

Yeah, by using the existing ISPs. Bottom line is — ISPs are the only way you’re getting connected to the Internet.


58 posted on 12/14/2013 10:17:00 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler; All

Thanx for an informative trip.


59 posted on 12/14/2013 10:20:14 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Ray76

Heck, I even remember DOS2. (((creak)))


60 posted on 12/14/2013 10:20:27 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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