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Is there a way to internet without an ISP ?
self | December 14, 2013 | knarf

Posted on 12/14/2013 9:44:32 AM PST by knarf

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To: knarf

X.25 radio modems have been used on CB frequencies. Data rates are like slow dialup.Maybe dialup modems could be used over radio voice circuits with full duplex.Requires two channelsMoot if government full resources used to shut down comma.


121 posted on 12/14/2013 5:33:43 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: knarf

Sorry knarf


122 posted on 12/14/2013 6:12:57 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: knarf
Is an ISP just an entity with permission to operate ? Or is it a building with electricity, electronics and people that know what they're doing ?

Both - has been assigned authority to operate but also has computers/servers/routers/switches to effect the ingress to the internet. Most maintain redundant sets of file/mail servers/DNS servers/Gateways, etc. You are connected to the ISP equipment and the ISP equipment then connects you to the WWW.

123 posted on 12/15/2013 3:37:57 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: jocon307

“A friend told me that in NYC after Sandy a lot of people were without internet service, so they huddled by their local starbucks which even though the stores were closed, the wifi was still working.”

Here in L.A., the LA public libraries have their wifi on 24/7. No need to type in your libr card. Mostly bums do it but the trick is to get close enough to the building windows as wifi does not exactly penetrate concrete.


124 posted on 12/15/2013 11:57:18 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: prisoner6

I remember Kermit.


125 posted on 12/15/2013 3:55:24 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Ray76; Conspiracy Guy
I get a chuckle from folks in a city who think they will get to some cabin a hundred or more miles away.

I'm a hundred miles from where I'd go in a real SHTF scenario, but I can get all the way there on the smallest of back roads. Outside the city, I know the way on a dirt road that only crosses pavement once in 70 miles.

I think people over-estimate the degree to which you can actually "live off the land" in such a situation. In the 1800's, when there were at least 80% fewer of us, our forefathers damn near wiped out the big game of North America with black-powder rifles.

If 350 million people armed with 500 million modern firearms all found themselves reduced to hunting wild game for their supper, there wouldn't be so much as a gopher left in the continental US inside of four months.

126 posted on 12/15/2013 4:06:06 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ccmay

Every burg will have it’s PD protecting that town. Maybe backed by state police or Guard.

Depending on topography, time of year, proximity to population, you may/not be able to reach your destination.

Once there exercise sound and light discipline. Use traps and a crossbow. If people know where you are....

I think the first wave would be done within two months. After that marauders & scavengers, armed. No place is defensible long term.

Pretty much the West Coast and anyplace east of the Mississippi is toast. Too many people.


127 posted on 12/15/2013 4:33:02 PM PST by Ray76
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To: ccmay
We have food for 30 people for 30 days and only 20 people in the group. Half of those are children. Unlimited fresh water plus filter capability. 6000 defensible acres, 2 streams with fish.

The high loss of wild life was due to market hunting techniques like wiping out 300 geese with a single canon filled with buckshot over a baited field. 350 million people don't own guns, don't know how to hunt, and don't know how to prepare whatever they might kill. The population centers are where most people live. I live rural. You over estimate the ability of people to wipe out game. Our forefathers knew how to hunt. Most modern Americans don't.

128 posted on 12/15/2013 4:35:33 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: knarf

Ham radio or a BBS would be about all you could use. But for a BBS you’d need a functioning phone line. No graphics but highly effective for getting up a functioning comms net.


129 posted on 12/19/2013 12:57:09 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority...")
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To: self

Bump For Later...


130 posted on 08/12/2014 12:38:46 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzlims trying to kill them-)
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To: knarf
By definition, no.

If you want internet service, you need a provider. That means, either you find an ISP or you look in the mirror and remember where to plug in. Can't remember? Well, you are SOL!

Either you are an ISP or you find one.

131 posted on 08/12/2014 1:01:11 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: JRandomFreeper
Having been an Operations Director of an ISP, I can assure you that ISPs provide more than email. They provide the pipe and routing that connects you to the rest of the internet.

That's bogus.

Internet access and email are totally separate. Email is an edge service. It uses the network but it most definitely is not the network. Conflating the two is a perversion! An abominable and detestable crime against nature!

Verizon provides my internet. Gmail provides my email. Never the twain shall meet!!

132 posted on 08/12/2014 1:05:54 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Dan(9698)
ISP is just for email.

LOL! That's not even wrong.

ISP is to get you on the network. Email is something you can do once you are on the network. Combining the two is a conflict of interest likely to result in harm to the end user.

133 posted on 08/12/2014 1:08:28 AM PDT by cynwoody
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