Phonon–nuclear Coupling for Anomalies in Condensed Matter Nuclear Science

only if it can be made a practical source of energy.
***So, you answer a hypothetical IF statement with another hypothetical IF statement. But at least you addressed it.

So, then, why are you against it? It’s not at the level of snake oil, it’s at the level of other scientific anomalies and has the potential to solve the energy crisis IF (<-—see that, it’s an IF) as you say, “it can be made a practical source of energy”. Your own words show a certain hypocrisy when it comes to this topic.

Hot fusion is a real process,
***And LENR is a real process, having been replicated more than 14700 times.

demonstrated beyond doubt, with a firm understanding of the process
***High temperature superconductivity is a “real” process, but there is no firm understanding of it. Would you hound any articles about superconductivity off of Free Republic just because there’s no established theory? What about Gravity — there’s no established theory for it, either. Sure, there’s a law of gravity, but no established theory. Does that make it snake oil to post gravitational theories?

yet as you so often point out hot fusion may never be a practical source of power generation.
***Because it can’t be scaled down. LENR would only need to be scaled up. Far, far easier to do one than the other.

If my comments offend you I wonder why you keep returning. Oh well...

I’ve said more than once that Lenr anomaly should be explored so I’m against Lenr or the study of it. And this being a open forum I feel free to express my deep (and I would say entirely justified) skepticism about Lenr or some form of it changing the world by providing endless and cheap energy. Fission was supposed to that too, remember?

Sure hypotheticals can be answered with hypotheticals...life is full of contingencies. 14,700 replications and how many failures? A million? Ten million? Does anyone care or know?

Gravity need not be understood at all so long as it operates consistently enough for a person to make predictions from observations of it in action and use it.

Hound? No one can hound anyone or anything off FR by design. Personal insult and abuse is not allowed and if you wish you can have a protected thread I assume.
And you’re always free not to reply, right?

If my comments offend you I wonder why you keep returning. Oh well...
***Where did I say your comments offended me on this thread?

I’ve said more than once that Lenr anomaly should be explored so I’m against Lenr or the study of it.
***Presuming what you wrote was a typo... Then why do you consider it on the same level as “snake oil”? You wouldn’t be proposing that we study snake oil for its benefits , so this brings up your simple hypocrisy.

And this being a open forum I feel free to express my deep (and I would say entirely justified) skepticism about Lenr or some form of it changing the world by providing endless and cheap energy.
***Perhaps if you examined the science behind the claims you wouldn’t have such deep nor even justified skepticism.

Fission was supposed to that too, remember?
***Then let us examine the differences, why fission didn’t/couldn’t/wouldn’t/can’t provide the cheap energy needed to solve the energy crisis. Instead, you just hand wave over it as if it were a usable analogy, thus generating a classic fallacy of false analogy.

14,700 replications and how many failures? A million? Ten million? Does anyone care or know?
***It does not matter. Dolly the Sheep was cloned, and there was hundreds of thousands of failures. It only takes ONE replication to prove the existence of the science, but skeptopaths require more than 15,000 replications of LENR. Why? Because they’re freeping lazy intellectual bandwagon jumpers. Otherwise they’d be diving into the science behind the claims. It is telling that they do not.

Gravity need not be understood at all so long as it operates consistently enough for a person to make predictions from observations of it in action and use it.
***So it’s not a requirement that we understand gravity in order to use it. Similarly, high temperature superconductivity (another condensed matter anomaly) is not understood but there’s no clamoring to remove it from FR. But LENR, the skeptopaths want removed from FR because it’s not understood. Hypocrisy.

Hound? No one can hound anyone or anything off FR by design.
***Asked & Answered WW calls it vigilante censorship

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if you wish you can have a protected thread I assume.
***Nope.

And you’re always free not to reply, right?
***And you’re always free to skip LENR threads, or to (heaven forbid) actually EXAMINE the evidence.

This back and forth might go on forever but that’s not a tasty prospect in my view.

There has been enough summaries of the theories pertaining to cold fusion so that anyone can understand the basic concepts proposed. And reams of theoretical papers won’t heat a single cup of water, leave those to the scientists talking to one another.

That’s leaves results, something the money will follow as in the willingness of venture capitalists to pony up $20,000,000 IF a working commercial boiler can be produced.

Yes, that was a typo. But one never knows where the Secret Committee for Driving Lenar and Kevmo Off FR will pop up.

There has been enough summaries of the theories pertaining to cold fusion so that anyone can understand the basic concepts proposed.

***Perhaps if you examined the science behind the claims you wouldn’t have such deep nor even justified skepticism.

And reams of theoretical papers won’t heat a single cup of water, leave those to the scientists talking to one another.
***ETFOOM. Cups of tea HAVE BEEN HEATED in these experiments.

lunchtime talk at ICCF18:

Roulette, T., J. Roulette, and S. Pons. *Results of ICARUS 9 Experiments
Run at IMRA Europe.* in Sixth International Conference on Cold Fusion,
Progress in New Hydrogen Energy. 1996. Lake Toya, Hokkaido, Japan: New
Energy and Industrial Technology Development Organization, Tokyo Institute
of Technology, Tokyo, Japan.

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RouletteTresultsofi.pdf

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJlessonsfro.pdf

That’s leaves results, something the money will follow as in the willingness of venture capitalists to pony up $20,000,000 IF a working commercial boiler can be produced.
***Most people who have their hands on the purse strings are bandwagon jumpers like you. So that makes your assertion a buncha bowlsheet.

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Yes, that was a typo. But one never knows where the Secret Committee for Driving Lenar and Kevmo Off FR will pop up.
***Yup. I moved forward on the presumption of a typo without snarkiness, and the one who generated the typo indulges in skeptpathic snarkiness. Yes, things in LENR land are the same as they have been for a long time. Snarkiness for thee but not for me.

asked & answered
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