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'Catching Fire' in the Coming Century: Will We Heed Its Pointed Warning?
Big Hollywood ^ | November 24, 2013 | Virgil

Posted on 11/24/2013 6:08:45 PM PST by Bratch

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it’s a distinctly dystopian take on the future, seen from the perspective of year five of the Obama era.

The first book in the series was written in 2008, year 8 of the Bush (the younger) era.

The simple fact is that dystopian novels are extremely popular in juvenile fiction, and have been for some time now. We shouldn't be surprised that when such a story (and a best-selling one at that) is adapted into a well-made film, that it would be successful.

21 posted on 11/24/2013 7:17:02 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: tumblindice
Side B:

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22 posted on 11/24/2013 7:24:48 PM PST by randita
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To: randita

Aye caramba!


23 posted on 11/24/2013 7:28:53 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Bratch

Keep in mind the author wrote these books under Bush, it was meant to be a comment about HIS administration.

Whats great, IMHO, is that it unwittingly describes the Obama admin better.


24 posted on 11/24/2013 7:31:31 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Jet Jaguar

I thought it was very entertaining. I didn’t want it to end when it did. When is the 3rd one?


25 posted on 11/24/2013 7:38:52 PM PST by BreezyDog
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To: BreezyDog

I don’t know. I would suspect next year.


26 posted on 11/24/2013 7:42:22 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: RginTN

Yes, but in this latest movie a spark has ignited the beginnings of a revolution against the tyrannical government.


27 posted on 11/24/2013 7:43:57 PM PST by BreezyDog
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“Yes, but in this latest movie a spark has ignited the beginnings of a revolution against the tyrannical government.”

Jeez, I hope so.


28 posted on 11/24/2013 8:38:56 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I think the “inspiration” for the first book of the trilogy is complete BS. The story goes way deeper than that to simply ascribe it to the Bush Administration.


29 posted on 11/24/2013 9:37:54 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Not enough.


30 posted on 11/24/2013 10:16:43 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: angry elephant

I also read all three books. Great reading.

Usually the movies as a rule, never follow the book.
However, i’ve heard that Catching Fire is as close to the book as it can get..... I’ll buy the DVD when i’ts available.

Hope i’m not disappointed.


31 posted on 11/24/2013 10:54:08 PM PST by topspinr
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The rise of Jennifer Lawrence - Hollywood's most charismatic leading lady

Jennifer Lawrence's acting prowess comes hand in hand with her natural charm. As 'The Hunger Games: Catching Fire' is released in cinemas, David Gritten looks at her rapid rise
32 posted on 11/24/2013 11:27:55 PM PST by Bratch
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"I thought it was very entertaining. I didn’t want it to end when it did. When is the 3rd one"

The third one is scheduled for 2014 and the fourth 2015. The third book is being split into two movies.

33 posted on 11/25/2013 3:04:02 AM PST by Truth29
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But are the movies leading many left leaning young toward conservatism?


34 posted on 11/25/2013 5:21:59 AM PST by tbw2
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"But are the movies leading many left leaning young toward conservatism?"

Don't know. I can say that anecdotally some are seeing the parallels and asking questions, but AFAIK, there is no larger population polling or data. Such information gathering would undoubtedly be attacked by the Administration and under reported, if it existed. The films, however, can serve as a basis for conservatives to initiate such conversations and to advocate against current government policies.

35 posted on 11/25/2013 6:04:08 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29

In book three, one of the rebel characters blatantly says that they want to make the country a republic like it was in the early days. I read all 3 books and it does not appear to have any pro liberal message at all.


36 posted on 11/25/2013 6:09:43 AM PST by bigtoona
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To: Jack Hydrazine

read the books. Great.,


37 posted on 11/25/2013 6:14:23 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: tumblindice
Miss Lawrence was also quote fetching as Mystique in X-Men First Class.


38 posted on 11/25/2013 6:15:33 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Ah, she is better than the dreaded “x”


39 posted on 11/25/2013 9:37:48 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Bratch

I find that liberals are pretty stupid when it comes to recognizing forms of government.

I read the three books; I liked the story line, although the books are kind of juvenile; it is hilarious to me that Stephanie Mayer is often attacked for her writing in Twilight (partly because of the whole “girl falls in love with a boy” story), but Collins is praised when her writing isn’t any better.

But a lot of liberals see “totalitarian government” and think that’s republicans. They don’t understand that totalitarian is more often from the left — of course they think Hitler is “far-right”, so what do you expect.

The other hilarious thing is how “Catniss” is thought of as a female hero, when the real hero of the book is Peta; Catniss is really just a pawn who makes a really good pawn because she isn’t a weak person. But almost nothing that happens to her is something she thinks up. She is always being told what to do by some man.

The movies have tried to correct some of the bad messaging in the book, by making her stronger and more independent (the first movie anyway, I’ll have to see the 2nd movie to comment on it).

For example. The basis of the book is that there is a cruel game played every year where 24 kids are sent to fight each other to the death. Now, ethically, if an evil man puts you in a cage with an innocent person, and tells you “kill them or I’ll kill you”, does it give you the moral right to take a life? Not in my book, (although the TV show Criminal Minds they actually had this happen, and suggested the kid who killed another kid would get away with it).

And after two hunger games described, who is the one person who actually never kills anybody? It is Peta. Catniss kills people; the book struggles to suggest that the people she kills were “worthy” of it, in one case they have already killed someone and she kills in response, but other times she kills kids who have never killed anybody simply because they are hanging with others who kill — remember every one of them but one will end up dead, after all).

Anyway, the books are great to discuss how you actually defeat totalitarian governments.


40 posted on 11/25/2013 10:26:55 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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