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BREAKING: Pentagon ordering most of its furloughed civilian employees back to work.
AP via Twitter | October 5, 2013

Posted on 10/05/2013 10:56:02 AM PDT by don-o

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To: 11th_VA
RE :”Those GS’s weren't responsible for Obamacare - the one’s in the White House and Congress are the one’s we want on their own program. “

Why are we paying them with our tax $$$$ to stay home after closing our parks?

Why should they oppose Obama-care when they are exempt from it?

Most government employees are Dems and very liberal.

41 posted on 10/05/2013 11:49:48 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs

Its called politics. We have to take a few hits to move the ball down the field. Else the RATS will use this against us.


42 posted on 10/05/2013 11:55:46 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: don-o

Preparing to send the military into the suburbs. Gotta shut up the FREEPers, no doubt.


43 posted on 10/05/2013 11:59:49 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Repeal The 17th
Get back to work!

No.

Pay me anyways.

44 posted on 10/05/2013 12:00:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: 11th_VA
RE :”Its called politics. We have to take a few hits to move the ball down the field. Else the RATS will use this again”

The ball is moving the wrong direction wit this.

What happened to all that ‘just follow my principles’ talk we were endlessly lectured about?

If we really want the GOP to get a break from Dems then they could praise Obama-care and claim it was their idea.

45 posted on 10/05/2013 12:00:13 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Gen.Blather
If they’re going to pay them anyway, I don’t see why they were furloughed in the first place.

Pure, uadulterated spite.

46 posted on 10/05/2013 12:04:05 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: sickoflibs

You have no idea what you are talking about. In the DOD most workers are retired military and are exempt from Obamacare because we are in the VA system. Those who,are not have to purchase insurance. I pay for a dental plan (a lot of money) but I am not sure if in November people will be forced on to Oabmacare. There are many types of fed workers we are not all GS employees. The majority of people in my area are conservative, very few liberals among retirees here. We have seen Obama and the Dims go after our retirement.


47 posted on 10/05/2013 12:15:08 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: OldGoatCPO
RE :”There are many types of fed workers we are not all GS employees. The majority of people in my area are conservative, very few liberals among retirees here. We have seen Obama and the Dims go after our retirement.”

I know there are many contractors but are they getting paid for being off too?

I know the GSes here are off now and getting paid for it while exempt from Obamacare.

These are the folks w 100% job security.

48 posted on 10/05/2013 12:21:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks don-o.


49 posted on 10/05/2013 1:12:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: sickoflibs

That is also not true, none of us have job security. With the draw down GS positions will become redundant. They may be offered other jobs in some cases requiring them to relocate. There is no such thing as job security anymore. I am DOD so I do not know,about the EPA or IRS. We plussed up to support the war so we will see cuts. By law the agency I work for has to offer me a comparable position, Our funding runs out in 12 months unless renewed. I will either take a pay cut or relocate, with a child in college I have to work, we are no different than anyone else, just a different career path.


50 posted on 10/05/2013 8:11:26 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: OldGoatCPO
RE :”That is also not true, none of us have job security. With the draw down GS positions will become redundant. They may be offered other jobs in some cases requiring them to relocate. There is no such thing as job security anymore

BS

I know someone here who worked as a GS for NSA at Fort Meade who had a bad alcohol problem, just one of many problems. When many at NSA became contractors there he refused not wanting to give up his job security.

They tried to get him to quit as he he was nearly useless at ~ 75K per year but he knew better.

Finally he got arrested and lost his clearance and was fired after lots of taxpayer wasted $$$.

Those are not jobs. Jobs don't pay you when they cut back your time or furlough you. They don't pay you when you are useless

51 posted on 10/05/2013 8:37:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: OldGoatCPO
RE :”That is also not true, none of us have job security. With the draw down GS positions will become redundant. They may be offered other jobs in some cases requiring them to relocate. There is no such thing as job security anymore

BS

I know someone here who worked as a GS for NSA at Fort Meade who had a bad alcohol problem, just one of many problems. When many at NSA became contractors there he refused not wanting to give up his job security.

They tried to get him to quit as he he was nearly useless at ~ 75K per year but he knew better.

Finally he got arrested and lost his clearance and was fired after lots of taxpayer wasted $$$.

Those are not jobs. Jobs don't pay you when they cut back your time or furlough you. They don't pay you when you are useless

52 posted on 10/05/2013 8:37:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: OldGoatCPO

how many retirements will you collect on the taxpayers’ dime? You realize, or don’t you, that every cent you earn in “salary” and every cent you plan to collect in your future retirement and that you are currently collecting from you military retirement is a cent some poor schlunk earned in the private sector? That earning money in the private sector doesn’t quit at 4:30 or retire in place? I really truly resent double dippers.


53 posted on 10/05/2013 8:57:03 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

How many..ONE...for 31 one years of service and three wars, four if you count the fact I was in when Saigon fell. At my age I will collect only one retirement and if it makes you feel any better, I only get paid for working 10 months, I pay out over 1.5 months of my own salary and 1 month of my retirement in fed income tax. Tax payers paid me to serve when the vast majority of them would not, taxpayers paid for me to spend years separated from my family because they would not make that sacrifice. Taxpayers paid me to go to war so they could go to college, protest, make babies and raises families without ever seeing the enemy. Until 9-11, when the taxpayers demanded revenge. For decades terrorist killed us routinely, but the taxpayer did not care until terrorist killed innocent taxpayers. Once again I left the home and community I had finally settled in, happily went back to active service and there I remained until I was no longer legally able to serve. That is when I retired. The taxpayers thirst for revenge having been satisfied, the taxpayers now complain because I have medical care, that I now cost too much, that as a fed employee I could (if younger) double dip. Now, when the private sector will no longer offer me the same level of compensation or a career, you resent what I have? I do not know your history but less than 10% of our population are veteran’s, and only about 1% of those stayed long enough to retire. I do not recall the 90% at home in their warm beds resenting me sitting in the cold on Guard duty overseas. So that I fully understand this...you resent the former combat Marine I work with who will double dip. Why....he does not resent the fact you can walk. Or maybe you resent a friend of mine who will double dip, he can walk but I am sure he is not resentful of your ability to taste and actual sleep through an entire night. Oh I know you resent the former Marine who is doubling dipping now, he who retired from civil service with Agent Orange related cancer. You resent them or just me or all of us in general? Get over it, I resent no man’s wealth or achievements. I made my choices and quite frankly I would not change the decision to serve my country. With all,your resentment, I have to believe my worst day in service must have been better than your best day.


54 posted on 10/07/2013 1:47:35 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: OldGoatCPO

I served also.

I do not resent your military retirement.

I do resent those who double dip


55 posted on 10/07/2013 2:20:38 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Those who double dip are military retirees, are they suppose to crawl in a hole and die after the military. You are obviously unaware the National Guard offer a program the specifically allows you to retire from both civil service and the military at the same time. Silly argument, you do resent my military retirement but you feel I should not have both, no freedom to chose my career, no right to, equal pay and benefits, I should be allowed to work for only a paycheck while others can do the same job and receive retirement benefits? For full disclosure if I leave my job at the end of 5 years I receive a severance, but as I posted earlier, I work for a profit generating entity, I am paid out profits and so is the severance. Not tax dollars.


56 posted on 10/07/2013 3:21:29 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: OldGoatCPO

Good proud of you


57 posted on 10/07/2013 3:26:29 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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