Oakland Man Guilty Of Murdering Friend During Argument Over Existence Of God

CBS LOCAL ^ | September 3, 2013

[Puppage]

Well, now one of them knows they were right.

[Fightin Whitey]

That is really a great (and droll!) observation.

[Regulator]

Yim shot Phan?

Can’t make this stuff up...

[wideawake]

It doesn't sound like a theological discussion.

It sounds like one guy taunting another guy over his father's untimely death.

[Fightin Whitey]

Although—now that I think about it—it would be more accurate to say that one of them (Phan) knows who (Kim) was right.

Right?

[jsanders2001]

The FFRF will probably use this incident in one of their promo pamphlets now

[DannyTN]

Reminds me of an argument I had with an atheist in college.

I said, if we're just random chemical processes, then who really cares if my random chemical process shoots your random chemical process in the head?

His reply: "You're taking this random chemical process business too far."

And another agnostic roommate came home one night complaining about having been at a bar and watching a class mate humble a stripper in the bar in front of everybody. He said that was wrong.

Me: "If there is no God, what's wrong about it?"

Him: "I don't know, I just know it's wrong."

Me: "Maybe you were designed to know that it's wrong."

[Alex Murphy]

...an alcohol and cocaine-fueled argument over the existence of God. 33-year-old Douglas Yim...killed 25-year-old Dzuy Duhn Phan after a night of partying and playing video games.

The dangers of irresponsibility and prolonged adolescence.

[rktman]

Certainly the gun was to blame. Had nothing to do with booze or coke (which king hussein says he did when they could get it) or the person that pulled the trigger.

[skeeter]

Yim became enraged and grabbed his gun after Phan asked Yim where God was when Yim’s father died of a stroke several years earlier.

Mr Phan found out that the guy with the gun will always get the last word.

[a fool in paradise]

Sum Ting Wong?

[GeronL]

Phan sounds Vietnamese
Park sounds Korean
Yim sounds Venusian

[Arthur McGowan]

What was that other name? “Bang Ow”?

[Tenacious 1]

Me: "If there is no God, what's wrong about it?"

Him: "I don't know, I just know it's wrong."

Me: "Maybe you were designed to know that it's wrong."

Interesting. It's like why we are different from animals. A bear will not feel remorse about eating a toddler that wondered from a camp site. We don't blame the mauling of a human on the vicious dog, but its owner or even its breed (race). Still there are some animals that seem to demonstrate emotional feelings when one of their own offspring dies (elephants, etc.).

What makes us special that we know right from wrong? If we are no different than animals, we should not have these moral instincs beyond our own race (humans). But we do.

[Tenacious 1]

We Tu Lo and Bang Ding Ouw

[Puppage]

LOL. Agreed.

[afraidfortherepublic]

What were you doing hnging around with agnostics and atheists?

(That’s just a rhetoriccal question — I don’t expect an answer.)

[Talisker]

...shooting and killing his friend during an alcohol and cocaine-fueled argument ... after a night of partying ... the two men had engaged in a heated discussion about God. Yim became enraged and grabbed his gun after Phan asked Yim where God was when Yim’s father died of a stroke... Yim shot Phan at least six times.

Sorry, that's not first degree murder.

That's provoked heat of passion under the influence, not premeditation.

So second degree probably, third degree maybe.

But not first.

[JPG]

It did hit the Phan. RIP.